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What are the odds this is legitimate ? rolleyes.gif


http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.ZEIIcN&id=36935228083&ns=1&abbucket=0#detail





8GB, 599$, 4096 shaders sounds too good to be true tbh.

0.00% chance that is real. And yes, I had to go to 2 significant digits to fully quantify the percentage chance.
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Out of all the hobbies I enjoy in life PC gaming was by far the cheapest. You could more or less have the best of whats available for a very reasonable price. If you take a look at other electronic hobbies such as Home Theater, Home Audio, Car Audio etc. you won't even touch anything high end without breaking the bank. We were lucky to have high-end affordable equipment for as long as we did. Now just like any other expensive hobby the best is going to cost you. For those with a limited budget you have two options. 1. Leave the hobby and pick up a console for your gaming needs. 2. Wipe your tears and come to the realization that you can no longer afford the best of what this hobby has to offer.

I've got hobbies that actually make money, but lately I've been trying to sweat less, and keep my skin on my body, but with hardware prices on a rocket ride to the moon I'm quickly getting to the point where building PC's doesn't even sound like fun anymore. Half the fun was finding good deals and building something that performed better for less. That will officially be an extinct practice if this projected price holds out.

Though I'll admit we're reading a bit too much into it. The truth is if AMD really wants to stop being known as the "cheap" brand they need to stomp the Titan X with a card that doesn't enter the halo price range. That will earn them the reputation of the BEST. Not best for the money, not best if you can put up with the driver support, not best if you don't want G-sync. Just the best card on the market. And that's the title they need right now.
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I've got hobbies that actually make money, but lately I've been trying to sweat less, and keep my skin on my body, but with hardware prices on a rocket ride to the moon I'm quickly getting to the point where building PC's doesn't even sound like fun anymore. Half the fun was finding good deals and building something that performed better for less. That will officially be an extinct practice if this projected price holds out.

Though I'll admit we're reading a bit too much into it. The truth is if AMD really wants to stop being known as the "cheap" brand they need to stomp the Titan X with a card that doesn't enter the halo price range. That will earn them the reputation of the BEST. Not best for the money, not best if you can put up with the driver support, not best if you don't want G-sync. Just the best card on the market. And that's the title they need right now.

I agree. I mentioned this in another thread. Amd hit a home run with the 295x. Nvidia hasn't really done much in the dual-gpu since the gtx690. The TitanZ was a disaster on all levels. With Nvidia having the 980Ti in its back pocket I don't really see Amd gaining enough market share with a single gpu solution to even put a dent in Nvidia's stronghold on the gpu market. Amd has two options in my opinion. Release a 380x that is on par with TitanX/980Ti for around $600 dollars. Make the 390x a dual gpu Fiji that is twice as fast a TitanX for $1300. Amd releasing a single gpu for $800-850 will be a disaster. They just don't have the reputation to pull this type of cash from a Nvidia dominated marketed consumer.
 
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Great way to take everything out of context and then apply it to a set of products I wasn't even referring to. Have a nice day.


You mean the very products the OP is about. Oh I do apologise for being a headache.
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Out of all the hobbies I enjoy in life PC gaming was by far the cheapest. You could more or less have the best of whats available for a very reasonable price. If you take a look at other electronic hobbies such as Home Theater, Home Audio, Car Audio etc. you won't even touch anything high end without breaking the bank. We were lucky to have high-end affordable equipment for as long as we did. Now just like any other expensive hobby the best is going to cost you. For those with a limited budget you have two options. 1. Leave the hobby and pick up a console for your gaming needs. 2. Wipe your tears and come to the realization that you can no longer afford the best of what this hobby has to offer.

Speakers can get pricey, yeah, but the amp/dac is pretty cheap, but treating the room can get costly/time-consuming with EQ depending on the wishes of the person. Headphone hobby is pretty damned cheap though, far cheaper than computing long term, unless you have an itch to get more than one headphone/amp/dac or something.

 

I think people get insulted and angry that a GPU can cost $1000. After adjusting for inflation it's really not that bad, and I'd like to see a $5000 ultra-mega-uber single GPU. Most of it is irrational, psychological stuff causing us to enjoy our own gear less just because something faster is out there. That's something the consumer has to fix his or herself, it's not Nvidia or AMD's fault.

 

I think the justified? fear is that the average consumer will slowly be conditioned into paying more for a similar tier of performance in the long run.

 

 

Anyways, I'm not looking for a double-GPU solution. For my needs I want 4+gb of vram and I want single-GPU solution. A very compelling price/performance dual GPU solution I don't want right now because reasons.


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Speakers can get pricey, yeah, but the amp/dac is pretty cheap, but treating the room can get costly/time-consuming with EQ depending on the wishes of the person. Headphone hobby is pretty damned cheap though, far cheaper than computing long term, unless you have an itch to get more than one headphone/amp/dac or something.

I think people get insulted and angry that a GPU can cost $1000. After adjusting for inflation it's really not that bad, and I'd like to see a $5000 ultra-mega-uber single GPU. Most of it is irrational, psychological stuff causing us to enjoy our own gear less just because something faster is out there. That's something the consumer has to fix his or herself, it's not Nvidia or AMD's fault.



Anyways, I'm not looking for a double-GPU solution. For my needs I want 4+gb of vram and I want single-GPU solution. A very compelling price/performance dual GPU solution I don't want right now because reasons.

I guess it depends on what kind of amps you consider High-End. My DD amp in my car was 2k. My Home Theater amp was 5k. And in all honesty they are considered middle of the road equipment. Home Audio amps can go well over 20k. If there is a market for it companies will build it. With the recent Titan sells there is clearly a market for $1k gpu's. Nvidia is simply making a smart business decision. Amd will soon follow.
 
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I guess it depends on what kind of amps you consider High-End. My DD amp in my car was 2k. My Home Theater amp was 5k. And in all honesty they are considered middle of the road equipment. Home Audio amps can go well over 20k. If there is a market for it companies will build it. With the recent Titan sells there is clearly a market for $1k gpu's. Nvidia is simply making a smart business decision. Amd will soon follow.

I'm from the HA camp. With headphone amps at least, a simple $120 amp is transparent and all I will ever need. I haven't looked at closely at speaker amps, but just because there exists a $20k amp people say is awesome, doesn't mean I will believe it. I will look at the measurements and judge from there, and with enough free time I'd like to try a double blind test.

 

So yea. :p 

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If that were true i'd go CF, it won't be though sad-smiley-002.gif

Is that a reputable site?

It's just a Chinese version of eBay. The dude has pretty decent rep though:

http://rate.taobao.com/user-rate-c8d846a5dc5f6e5fae3b6480e1968ee5.htm?spm=2013.1.1000126.4.aTRquq

1859 total, ~95% 5/5
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0.00% chance that is real. And yes, I had to go to 2 significant digits to fully quantify the percentage chance.

Not necessarily, it could be a preorder type thing.
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What are the odds this is legitimate ? rolleyes.gif


http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.1.ZEIIcN&id=36935228083&ns=1&abbucket=0#detail





8GB, 599$, 4096 shaders sounds too good to be true tbh.
it is using Video Cardz chart, it is not legit
http://videocardz.com/amd/radeon-rx-300/radeon-r9-390x
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