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Well AMD did say they no longer want to be the cheaper alternative.


I wouldn't be surprised if this launches at $999.
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I dont actually mind this, as long as the performance speaks for itself.

But heck with "Leviathan" I say name it Bahamut ! thumb.gif
i do mind this, and this is why i hate the Titan series. Nvidias price gouging is spreading across the board. My 290x is very old and i want an affordable replacement. If this becomes a trend then goodbye PC gaming.
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Leviathan would be a very fitting name for my Mastodon rig biggrin.gif
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i do mind this, and this is why i hate the Titan series. Nvidias price gouging is spreading across the board. My 290x is very old and i want an affordable replacement. If this becomes a trend then goodbye PC gaming.

Seconded, this whole idea is garbage.

I could afford to spend $500-600 per card to replace my current cards, considering someone will owe me $600, and I could sell each of my current cards on Amazon for around $300 each. So, that's $1200 to upgrade. I HAVE to have two cards, one card is not an option. I use Eyefinity so I absolutely need two cards, even recent games like Dragon Age were killing me and I need more power.

I can't do a single card. I also don't feel comfortable spending more than $500 on a card. I was an idiot and I bought my 290s (Tri-X) during the mining craze, I spent $650 for one and $490 for the other.

I mean, what are they thinking? $500 for these stupid things is a ton of money already, let alone $800 or $1100... they also don't hold their freaking value well at all.... hell, for $1100 (Titan X price) I could have a PS4 *AND* Xbox One and probably games or multiple controllers for each!!! Maybe I should just do that!
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i do mind this, and this is why i hate the Titan series. Nvidias price gouging is spreading across the board. My 290x is very old and i want an affordable replacement. If this becomes a trend then goodbye PC gaming.
There is plenty of good cards across the board. The high end products are not cheap and not made to be affordable to the majority of people, same concept applies to everything else.
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There is plenty of good cards across the board. The high end products are not cheap and not made to be affordable to the majority of people, same concept applies to everything else.

Yeah, no. Performance/price hasn't really inched forward much from 2013 so far and won't if AMD simply do the rebrands with Fiji at Titan-level overpricing nonsense (which is not the historical norm for the GPU market, period). Furthermore, there was nothing about the original GK110 chip beyond its predecessors in manufacturing costs or anything to justify its price (especially not when it's now falling behind hard in support/performance with some current games in ways it simply shouldn't) nor is there for GM200. $1000 is out of this world for a gaming GPU (or it would be to any PC enthusiast with a memory beyond the past two years). Not like die size is groundbreaking or anything at all. All this garbage was only possible because AMD screwed up hard with their stupidly-conservative GCN strategy so that Nvidia could match Tahiti (for $550) at launch with GK104 and massively overprice GK100/GK110 whenever they wanted and later charge whatever they want for Maxwell while AMD did nothing but plan this abomination of a release.

AMD's marketshare reflects their poor strategy and now, as if it wasn't enough to have a literal doubling of prices across the board per each GPU tier from AMD's shortsightedness, they're going to join Nvidia in trying to charge an inordinate for any actual performance gain after two years as per these latest rumors. This is not what GPU "progress"/pricing has ever been like. It seems barely legal, even (wouldn't be the first time AMD/ATi and Nvidia colluded to raise prices illegally either). This is price gouging and inflation of profit margins with a complete halt on actual performance/price progress if true.

Before the Titan, the barely affordable top-end single GPUs were ~$500-$650, not $850-$1000. That is including the similarly large-die and expensive GF100/110, GT200, and G80 chips. Not coincidentally, Nvidia's profit margins have hit record highs with this strategy. Manufacturing cost is clearly not the problem.
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GOing to buy an 295x and just wing it till 2016. They aremgetting cheaper every month and going 4k in july.
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Great, so we mostly have a rebrand of a rebrand generation. I finally wanted to upgrade from my 7870xt, but the 380 @ around 200 euros looks to have the same performance as the 280, which has the same performance as the 7950, so no progress at the same price point since 3.5 years at all.
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I really hope AMD's top dog GPU can actually perform close or outperform the Titan X if they are indeed asking $849 or more. But it sucks that the 300 series are just rebrands, not surprising really because they did the same thing with R9 280 = 7970.
    
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AMD doesn't have the reputation, marketing skill, or the product to launch a competitor to the Titan X and make it float. As mentioned apparently yields on the HBM were so bad that AMD just couldn't lainch it as a flagship. The problem is it doesn't look like they had a contingency plan for that problem if every other card is a rebrand. That means that AMD's current lineup is going to have to carry them against Nvidia for a third year, when they're already losing market share hand over fist. A halo product that 1% of gamers buy is not going to put them back in the game, even if they can sell it.

Add on to that they're getting on an international venue to try and push this new tier of products where the average joe is going to look at it and say "LOL! 4GB compared to Nvidia's 12 and it uses so much electricity they have to watercool it? Pass!" You can brush off that crowd all you want, but those are exactly the people AMD is trying to reach by going to E3.

They're about to market a halo tier product to the average gamer against what the average gamer is going to perceive as a superior product just by brand name alone. And that's all they've got. Meanwhile, Nvidia is deliberately holding back a single market-ready product that is not halo tier, won't be priced as such, and will beat Fiji.

Keep thinking that Fiji is some god-tier tech if you want. Nvidia is not run by a bunch of fools. The 980ti is going to undercut Fiji in price, outperform it, and solidify the Titan series as the only halo product on the market. Match and set, AMD has essentially brought nothing to the table after 6 months of hype as their last gasp to remain relevant in a highly competitive and fast-paced market.
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