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What I'm looking for in a pad. I'm assuming it might be an Artisan of some sort?

I go back and forth between QCK Heavy and Razer Goliath Speed. Here are my complaints to better understand.

QCK Heavy
-Good grip/stopping power, allows for good long range aim and spray control. (Small movements go where you want and stop when you want them to stop.)
-Slow on flicks, when combined with good stopping power, usually ends up with me underaiming semi often. (Because of overall slower speed, flicks very often end up too slow)
-Slow on multi-second track-aim. (If somebody is running across your screen and you are trying to keep your mouse on his head is an example.)

Razer Goliath Speed
-Flicks are much more consistent and don't get stopped with different pressure. Slightly faster for me than QCK Heavy.
-Tracking is more consistent and allows easier slowing and speeding up of a long glide.
-Slow small glides lack stopping power and tend to wiggle out of my precision more than QCK Heavy. (long distance aiming/spray)
-Long distance aiming also tends to glide too much during consistent small movement. (Someone attempting to "dodge")

Essentially its something similar to Get_Rights current most likely bull**** post about the new mousepad he designed with Xtrfy. Non direct quote he says "most pads are either too slow or too fast and I wanted something in between them"

I want a pad that has stopping power of a QCK Heavy, but isn't as slow as a QCK Heavy.
Or another way of saying it is I want something as fast as a Goliath Speed but not as fast as Puretrak Talent or Hardpad type fast, but has stopping power closet to a QCK Heavy.

To repeat myself again, I want to have the speed to track/flick at people consistently and not be dragged down by slow speed. But I don't want the mouse to have a "hover feel" that it doesn't stop when you want it to stop.

HardPads/Puretrak Talent definitely have a "hover feel". So basically, what is the fastest pad that has the closest stopping power to a QCK Heavy with none of that hover feel. It obviously wont be anywhere near as fast as a Talent and I'm totally okay with that.
Edited by negativory - 5/19/15 at 6:42pm
post #2 of 21
You can go Artisan if you're willing to drop 35$ on large pad which might not fit your needs. Not many people own those so it's a risk to take.
I have xsoft zero and never had any issues with flicks. This is pretty much the slowest pad Artisan has (hien might be slower). Then there's this maintenance stuff with dust and what not.
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Originally Posted by Melan View Post

You can go Artisan if you're willing to drop 35$ on large pad which might not fit your needs. Not many people own those so it's a risk to take.
I have xsoft zero and never had any issues with flicks. This is pretty much the slowest pad Artisan has (hien might be slower). Then there's this maintenance stuff with dust and what not.

What is a proper way to maintain these pads? I'm on my 2nd Zero XSoft already.
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2nd zero in what period of time?
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post #5 of 21
hien has good stopping power.

compared to my other pads, hayate, qck heavy, goliathus speed, it has the most "balanced" texture where you have decent speed and control.
post #6 of 21
when gol. speed already gives you that "hover" feel, don't even look at hien, because it's even faster(when the gol. speed still has the same glide like it did 4 years ago, when i bought mine).
i guess the pads to consider are the artisan zero and the q-pad UC, which might be somewhere inbetween a qck heavy and a gol. speed when you are lucky, because the difference between qck heavy and gol. speed are very small already.
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post #7 of 21
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when gol. speed already gives you that "hover" feel, don't even look at hien, because it's even faster(when the gol. speed still has the same glide like it did 4 years ago, when i bought mine).
i guess the pads to consider are the artisan zero and the q-pad UC, which might be somewhere inbetween a qck heavy and a gol. speed when you are lucky, because the difference between qck heavy and gol. speed are very small already.

I agree the speed is minimal but the way that the pads reacts to small and slow movements and then fast or long movements is pretty significant on the pads IMO. The speed only is so much about a pad. If one pad is only mildly fast but has no stopping power (think of a textured hard pad), its still gonna ice-skate around and its still gonna etc etc. IMO people focus too much simply on speed or smoothness, its about how the pad reacts to the different things you do. If you are a MOBA player or whatnot, you could use a cardboard box and it prob wouldnt make a difference. But for precision FPS I think its important to take into account more than just how fast something is.

I know the Zero is technically slower than the Hein but does it have more stopping power?
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Originally Posted by discoprince View Post

hien has good stopping power.

compared to my other pads, hayate, qck heavy, goliathus speed, it has the most "balanced" texture where you have decent speed and control.

Have you used any other Artisan pads by any chance?
post #9 of 21
I think you should look into Artisan Hien and/or Zero Soft. I made the mistake of buying the 2nd gen Hien Hard and Hien Mid only to find out that they had reduced the thickness to 3mm. They also seemed to wear out in no time compared to my 1st gen Hien Hard. And I saw one user confirm that the Zero Mid is also 3mm despite the fact that the Artisan website says 4mm.

The 1st gen Hien is basically the only pad I've considered my 'main pad' in addition to the QcK heavy since... can't remember when. I'm like you, stuck with a product from 10 years ago because there isn't anything better. I've been putting up with it because it's cheap and easy to replace. Artisan is expensive and takes weeks to arrive by mail.
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Originally Posted by jukkhop View Post

I think you should look into Artisan Hien and/or Zero Soft. I made the mistake of buying the 2nd gen Hien Hard and Hien Mid only to find out that they had reduced the thickness to 3mm. They also seemed to wear out in no time compared to my 1st gen Hien Hard. And I saw one user confirm that the Zero Mid is also 3mm despite the fact that the Artisan website says 4mm.

The 1st gen Hien is basically the only pad I've considered my 'main pad' in addition to the QcK heavy since... can't remember when. I'm like you, stuck with a product from 10 years ago because there isn't anything better. I've been putting up with it because it's cheap and easy to replace. Artisan is expensive and takes weeks to arrive by mail.

So you are using the Qck Heavy now that Artisan is too expensive and doesn't last long enough?
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