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Sigh, might need to wait till this weekend, pull out spreadsheets and a beer. Do a performance cost per setting analysis and then do an image quality analysis.

Nvidia's already done a lot of that - not sure how much you trust their performance numbers, but those sliding quality pictures they have are nice.

http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-graphics-performance-and-tweaking-guide

That's all Titan X SLI though. Not Keplers. It would be more realistic to test with a GPU people are more likely to own.

Also the game is quite pretty, but it is not what I would call "Titan X only gets about 60 FPS in 1080P" pretty.
Edited by RagingCain - 5/20/15 at 1:27pm
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Fyi: I net about 10-20 fps in certain areas of the game, and while running around. By setting the CPU prio to high. I knew my CPU usage seemed low before. The fans weren't even ramping up. Well, they are now lol.

To have it start high prio by default everytime (if you're familar with the registry) you can add the key below;

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows NT\CurrentVersion\Image File Execution Options\witcher3.exe\PerfOptions] “CpuPriorityClass”=dword:00000003
post #33 of 45
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As I said in another thread, this may very well bring short term dividends to Nvidia, but will ultimately bring them long term losses. Imagine if people buying a 780 Ti would have been told at launch that their cards would only get one year of optimized drivers - would you value such a card at $699? Would you buy one at all? This is what may happen in the future. Who is going to buy a Titan X or a 980 Ti one year before Pascal arrives?

I went 5 months without a new driver from AMD from December's Omega Catalysts that were finished in November to March on a dual GPU card, with no way disable CFX.

It's not like we are just littered with choices of vendors at the moment.

Not to mention, we used to accept that all new architectures have teething. As driver's mature over launch drivers performance improves. If 980 and the 780 Ti were neck and neck at launch, I would have no doubt that 6 months towards a year, it would readily be out performing my card.

In addition, GCN architecture improvements are all AMD focuses on. One architecture, while nVidia has 3 separate ones. I don't expect the same focus of support for my card when the new architecture is on the shelves from nVidia. That's just kind of a given.

I am not entirely convinced that Kepler's performance in two titles shows an abandonment of the card either. I would probably say give it a couple weeks or a month, get post launch patches into the game and drivers, and see how it performs. Especially on these console ports, they seem to really benefit from getting as much VRAM as possible upfront too advantages that seem to really pay off for the 970/980 cards.
by 3 separate archs you don't mean maxwell kepler and fermi cause i don't think nvidia still suporting fermi gpus .
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As I said in another thread, this may very well bring short term dividends to Nvidia, but will ultimately bring them long term losses. Imagine if people buying a 780 Ti would have been told at launch that their cards would only get one year of optimized drivers - would you value such a card at $699? Would you buy one at all? This is what may happen in the future. Who is going to buy a Titan X or a 980 Ti one year before Pascal arrives?

I went 5 months without a new driver from AMD from December's Omega Catalysts that were finished in November to March on a dual GPU card, with no way disable CFX.

It's not like we are just littered with choices of vendors at the moment.

Not to mention, we used to accept that all new architectures have teething. As driver's mature over launch drivers performance improves. If 980 and the 780 Ti were neck and neck at launch, I would have no doubt that 6 months towards a year, it would readily be out performing my card.

In addition, GCN architecture improvements are all AMD focuses on. One architecture, while nVidia has 3 separate ones. I don't expect the same focus of support for my card when the new architecture is on the shelves from nVidia. That's just kind of a given.

I am not entirely convinced that Kepler's performance in two titles shows an abandonment of the card either. I would probably say give it a couple weeks or a month, get post launch patches into the game and drivers, and see how it performs. Especially on these console ports, they seem to really benefit from getting as much VRAM as possible upfront too advantages that seem to really pay off for the 970/980 cards.
by 3 separate archs you don't mean maxwell kepler and fermi cause i don't think nvidia still suporting fermi gpus .

Yep they are.
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Wow GTX970 smashing it. Good investment.
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Wow GTX970 smashing it. Good investment.

-till pascel comes out.

I have a 970, so i'm not affected by this, but it is TROUBLING to me on every level imaginable. I remember when Kepler came out within a year they basically had dropped support for Fermi, they stopped optimizations almost completely, but since most people were actually on the 6xxx series AMD cards or were so desperate to get out of their Fermi cards, no one really cared. Difference this time is a LOT of people own and love some very nice gpus from their Kepler family.

I suspect this is more the result of negligence and wasn't intentional, still Kepler has been slipping in almost every game release since maxwell came out, so we can't say this is a new trend.
 
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Wow GTX970 smashing it. Good investment.

It's nice because Witcher 3 does not use a lot of vRAM. If it did GTX970 would suffer.
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It's nice because Witcher 3 does not use a lot of vRAM. If it did GTX970 would suffer.

That is correct, and also very interesting. Witcher 3 has rather low vram usage compared to most other recent releases (cough gta v cough)

This is from W3:
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Just occurred to me to wonder if the Kepler performance in this game could be DirectX related? Hawaii, Tonga, and Maxwell all support DirectX11.2 natively, but Kepler and Tahiti are only 11.1. Maybe the new Gameworks libraries use some DirectX 11.2 feature that Kepler cards have to emulate, causing them to be slower? That could also explain why the R9 285 suddenly outscores the 280X.

I don't know, just a thought, has anyone seen any benchmarks on Win 7?
Edited by Forceman - 5/20/15 at 8:59pm
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So many topics about this games graphic fidelity. I don't even know where to post and say that it runs great at 1440p on my rig, but most importantly, it's fun so far.
 
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