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i know my academic choices seems bizarre but, my 2008 macbook is not really up to the task anymore, i'm starting law school next semester so i'll need a pretty good keyboard, but on the other hand i also study engineering, which means i go through about 2-3 notebooks last semester just from formulas and derivatives, i think i narrowed it down to the surface pro 3, or 4 if that comes out before i make the jump. is there anything out there that has just as good stylus + keyboard combo or is the surface pro 3 my best bid.
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So far my experience with the Surface has been pleasant, however I mainly just prep them for deployment and move on, I havent done any real testing on them.

As for the UI and transitions etc its very smooth and the stylus works pretty well as well. If I recall there is a member here that uses it for his daily driver we might be able to get his attention (he's usually in the wireless/router section)
    
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the only problem i see with the surface pro 3 is where to keep the stylus when ur not using it, however this product has only come to my radar due to the sales going on right now, i have seen my classmates tackle long physics equations with a galaxy tab and they made it look so easy. while i'm scribbling away on my notebook.
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Its made of some type of metal, I would wager its aluminum possibly?
    
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yeah so its a very minor con, i would have liked the stylus to go into the tablet like the galaxy but the galaxy don't have as nice of a keyboard.

also how long is the battery life, i don't need any media consumptions just notes taking and handwriting with occasional skype. i tried looking that up but i keep getting mixed reviews
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I guess that would depend on your brightness settings but we've left one at least a few hours before realizing that we were not finished yet. Still had about 93% batter but of course it went into sleep mode.

Explore your options, @coachmark2 can you provide some input from your experiences?
    
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i know my academic choices seems bizarre but, my 2008 macbook is not really up to the task anymore, i'm starting law school next semester so i'll need a pretty good keyboard, but on the other hand i also study engineering, which means i go through about 2-3 notebooks last semester just from formulas and derivatives, i think i narrowed it down to the surface pro 3, or 4 if that comes out before i make the jump. is there anything out there that has just as good stylus + keyboard combo or is the surface pro 3 my best bid.

I would go for the new Surface 3, Surface Pro 3 or Surface Pro 4 for functionality.
Reason is that, I have uses all 3 different tablet to take notes: Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 32GB 2014 Edition, Surface Pro 2 and iPad Air with stylus. Yes, I just said, iPad Air.

Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition:
+ Great for note taking
+ Awesome S-Pen (Wacom)
+ Only Android tablet that can take notes.
+ Can take advantages of ****load of Android Apps
+ Less than 10 hours
+ Nice screen and resolution
+ Great camera (for taking pictures of papers, whiteboard or whatever)
+ Micro-SD Card Slot
+ Great for watching movies/TV Shows
+ Splitscreen function
+ Its Android. You get to customize how your screen would look.

- ****ty Android Note Taking Apps (Literally, it is absolute crap)
- 16:9 Aspect Ratio is awkward at Portrait use
- Long time charging. It can take you at least 4 or 5 hours to get full charge.
- S-Pen is too small that came with the tablet
- Need to switch between multiple apps for your notes. Need App for .doc/.ppt/.pdf/etc.
- Horrible offscreen button
- Recent Button is crap. It is built inside of Home Button. You have to Tap and Hold Home button to open Recent Menu. But it works 70/30 chance. Most of the time, you will open S-Voice which it is ANNOYING!
- Replace Recent Button for Menu Button which it is also crap. Randomly open S-Finder which I don't want.
- Horrible offscreen or conserve battery while at sleep. Every minutes, it eat your battery life which it can be annoying when you have a long class.
- Lacked of App support for the Splitscreen function.
- Lacked of Accessories.

+/ - Replace it with a third party stylus
+/ - Screen can get pretty slow, but you can always root it.

In the end, you only buy if you are a hardcore Android user or Samsung fan. If you are neither and prefer taking notes over brand or ecosystem, then look elsewhere.
I have use it, and it was okay but I went back to my iPad Air because I missed my GoodNote App and which IMO it is the best note taking app on any mobile Apps and probably on par with OneNote.
iPad is great at conserving battery life when at sleep, and I don't use my iPad Air at school other than note takings, checking emails, surfing, listening to music and playing few iOS games. I always get better battery life percent compare to Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition.

iPad Air with Stylus:

+ Awesome 4x3 aspect ratio for Portrait use
+ Great at conserving battery life while at sleep mode. You can get at least 3 or 4 days if you use it wisely without charging.
+ Fast charging
+ Great Apps
+ Ton of accessories.

- Apps cost money
- No first party Apps and Stylus
- Can last between 6-8 hours at full use.
- Lacked of storage
- iPad is slightly pricey

+ / - Have to use third party App and Stylus for handwritten note taking Apps
+ / - If you are able to find a good App and Stylus, it would be awesome.

Like I have talked about iPad Air. It is a decent tablet. Of course, there are ups and downs about it. I am not an Apple Fanboy or anything. I just want a tablet that know how to conserve battery life and being able to take decent notes.

Surface Pro 2:

Although it isn't Surface 3, Surface Pro 3 or Pro 4, at least you will get a general idea.

+ It is a PC Tablet.
+ Download any Windows Programs or Software
+ Has Pen Input (Wacom or N-Trig)
+ Awesome kickstand
+ Connect to external display
+ Ton of functionality
+ Ton of flexible.

- Being a PC Tablet, battery life is crap. You can last less than 5 or 6 hours on full use. (Well, that is on Surface Pro 2. It may be different on other).
- Too bulky and heavy to use.
- Awkward Portrait use with its 16:9 aspect ratio.

In the end, although the battery life on Surface Pro 2 doesn't last as long. It has better functionality and flexible, you can do mean cool things with it.
I would still recommend Surface 3, Pro 3 or Pro 4 over any of those 2 mobile OS tablet. Even though I did said I like my iPad Air, the lacked of multitasking or being productive kind of bother me.

If you went for PC Tablet, what you can do is open any of your .pdf/ .doc/ .ppt file up and "Print it to OneNote). Then it will send that file to OneNote Pages, and you can take notes side by side or on top of it.
It is really awesome, and I wish I knew about it before I returned Surface Pro 2 back.

If you do go for Surface 3, Pro 4 or Pro 4, you will find the OneNote and N-Trig with its dedicated button will be useful. Especially with that awesome 3x2 aspect ratio for portrait use.

By the way, if you have Microcenter store around you, you can buy a Refurbished Surface Pro 3 i3/4GB/64GB for $599. Then buy an Type Cover on Amazon for $80 dollar, and you can get the total w/o 1 year accidental warranty for less than $700 dollar.
     
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thanks for your huge input, i think i'm gonna go with a surface pro 3 or the 4 if that comes out this year, i think the battery issue you have from the 2 is largely solved by 3 and probably improved even further in the 4 since they probably gonna use 14nm cpu like broadwell or skylake.

so i take it onenote is the best app to use for notes taking in class rooms?
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Hey,

I have had a Surface Pro 3 (i5, 256) since December and I use it mainly for school and overall its been pretty useful for note taking, the stylus works well although it takes a little time getting used to it as writing on a screen is more slippery. Overall it has been great, its fast (I use Photoshop and even a bit Premiere on it, although rendering is slooow), very versatile, the keyboard is overall pretty comfortable to type on and the kickstand makes it very adjustable. It does have a few drawbacks, at times the keyboard doesn't detect at certain angles, it can heat up (although its on the back side so you don't feel it unless you are holding it in your hand), and the battery life is definitely not as advertised (I get around 5 hours), but the charger is pretty lightweight and has a USB port for charging your smartphone. If you need it for note taking then I would suggest the Surface, I also have the dock for it and have been using it along with my gaming rig for school work (don't expect to game on it though).

The screen is great, perfect aspect ratio (sort of like a piece of letter paper, so its good for notes). All in all, I would recommend it if you want to take notes and use it as your school laptop.

Hope this helps!
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i'm a bit skeptic about the battery life, 5 hours at most you say? shoot i was expecting somewhere like maybe 8 or 9 like the ipad lol, guess thats wishful thinking. i mainly need it for notes taking and complex physics problems that takes up 2 pages to solve.
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