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I'm currently sitting at +55 Offset and +4 Turbo and my Prime load is 1.355 which is higher than I want it to be and my Vegas Vcore is 1.40 to 1.35 which is what I want, but I have no idea how to make my prime voltage go lower! Anything lower than +4 on Turbo Voltage is Auto.
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No matter if I adjust the Offset or Turbo Vegas and Prime voltages always seems to have a gap of 20mV. LLC won't really help me here since Level 2 is the most accurate from the bunch when set at a Fixed Voltage since under Prime load voltage only drops 5mV below the set Voltage.

EDIT: Is 1.350 ( prime ) a reasonable voltage so I can set Vegas voltages to 1.330? That voltage is already compensated for the 5mV drop of LLC Level 2.
Edited by Speedster159 - 5/21/15 at 3:40pm
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No matter if I adjust the Offset or Turbo Vegas and Prime voltages always seems to have a gap of 20mV. LLC won't really help me here since Level 2 is the most accurate from the bunch when set at a Fixed Voltage since under Prime load voltage only drops 5mV below the set Voltage.

EDIT: Is 1.350 ( prime ) a reasonable voltage so I can set Vegas voltages to 1.330? That voltage is already compensated for the 5mV drop of LLC Level 2.

LLC like you use it is the right idea for fixed voltage. If you do offset overclocking (or that turbo offset that only ASRock has), you can try to approach this differently. The idea can be to intentionally not use the LLC setting that keeps it most accurate. Instead, you try an LLC setting that makes the voltage drop with increased power use. prime95 testing makes the CPU use more power than Vegas rendering. Because of this, if you use the LLC setting that makes voltage drop, the drop will be larger for prime95 than for Vegas. You can try to use that to get prime95 and Vegas voltage closer to each other.

By the way: from what I heard, LLC for the ASRock BIOS has the settings reversed compared to the other manufacturers: the lowest level is the most aggressive LLC and will raise voltage, and the highest level is the LLC being off and voltage dropping a lot. So what you could try is to see what happens to Vcore in Vegas and prime95 if you use level 3 or 4?
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LLC like you use it is the right idea for fixed voltage. If you do offset overclocking (or that turbo offset that only ASRock has), you can try to approach this differently. The idea can be to intentionally not use the LLC setting that keeps it most accurate. Instead, you try an LLC setting that makes the voltage drop with increased power use. prime95 testing makes the CPU use more power than Vegas rendering. Because of this, if you use the LLC setting that makes voltage drop, the drop will be larger for prime95 than for Vegas. You can try to use that to get prime95 and Vegas voltage closer to each other.

By the way: from what I heard, LLC for the ASRock BIOS has the settings reversed compared to the other manufacturers: the lowest level is the most aggressive LLC and will raise voltage, and the highest level is the LLC being off and voltage dropping a lot. So what you could try is to see what happens to Vcore in Vegas and prime95 if you use level 3 or 4?

But even if I use a different LLC Level won't they still have a 20mV difference? It seems like I need 1.345 to completely remove WHEA errors and my prime load voltages is 1.365 which does seem high... temperatures in check and it's all fine.

When I did my tests before I started overclocking I found that Level 1 would go way above my set voltage and the drop on Level 3 is too much, I belive I was still set a 1.330 and got 1.300? Something along those lines.
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You need to check it out. You can't know without trying.

On my Gigabyte board, the LLC settings are this (there's also "Auto"):

Normal -> Standard -> Low -> Medium -> High -> Turbo -> Extreme

So that's seven different values. The Turbo value is the one that keeps voltage constant. The Extreme value raises it a little under full load.

When this topic was discussed for Sandy Bridge and later for Ivy Bridge, people seemed to agree that if you want to do offset overclocking, you should try Low, Medium or High LLC. What exactly to use, there was no agreement, it was just about what to try. That Turbo value for LLC that will keep voltage from dropping at all, for that one there was agreement that it's for fixed voltage overclocking.
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Okay using LLC Level 2 my voltages were 1.365 Prime and 1.345 Vegas

Using LLC Level 3 my voltages are 1.330 Prime 1.315-1320 Vegas. Seems like a huge drop to me...

Using +35 Offset and +31 Turbo

EDIT: 1.325 Prime 1.315 Vegas +10 Offset +51 Turbo LLC Level 3

EDIT: Level 4 LLC just crashed when I try to load up prime, my guess is voltage too low.

1.330 Prime 1.320 Vegas +15 Offset +51 Turbo LLC Level 3 Diffirence 10mV

1.360 Prime 1.345-1.350 Vegas +25 Offset +70 Turbo LLC Level 3 Difference 10mV - 15mV

Using Level 3 Offset I would need to put in bigger numbers but get a smaller difference, using Level 2 I can put in lower numbers but get a bigger difference.

Would it be better to use Level 2 and put in smaller numbers?
Edited by Speedster159 - 5/22/15 at 6:52am
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