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post #21 of 105
Were looking at this all wrong guys. Google Fiber means we can all have speeds up to as fast as we're sitting on now, but everyone can run VPN's. smile.gif
post #22 of 105
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I'm shocked you actually believe this.
It should though and it is correct according to the state. thumb.gif
That companies can lobby their way around such things is actually the absurd thing.
post #23 of 105
Nothing new here, just the music industry phishing for gullible people.

Mark my words that it won't be long before they work out a deal with the major ISP's to "fine" people through their bill though. ISP's won't mind taking their cut for processing and transaction fees, I promise.
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To protect customers against these practices many ISPs including Comcast, Verizon and AT&T have chosen not to forward settlement demands.

So Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T are the good guys here and protecting your privacy and Google elects to not.
post #25 of 105
I think the Google act's like an informer here. The plan will actually fail as Google fiber won't be implemented in countries that do most of the pirating.
post #26 of 105
All this is is google forwarding emails they receive. As an ISP they get noticed from the MPAA that this ip was downloading this. The MPAA gives the person at that IP an option to settle for said amount of money.



All google is doing is forwarding the email so that they are not responsible.
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All this is is google forwarding emails they receive. As an ISP they get noticed from the MPAA that this ip was downloading this. The MPAA gives the person at that IP an option to settle for said amount of money.

All google is doing is forwarding the email so that they are not responsible.

Sorry, but no, that's not all they are doing.

What pirate site do you log in to that takes your email (more to the point, what idiot uses their ISP's email in a site to download illegal movies)? RIAA doesn't have your email address.

No, what Google is doing is cross referencing the IP that you use at a particular time, and then forwards the request to your email.

Further, as the article said, Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T don't do this sort of cave in to RIAA. They tell RIAA to "get bent" and do their own foot work and find out the email address and sent it themselves.
post #28 of 105
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Sorry, but no, that's not all they are doing.

What pirate site do you log in to that takes your email (more to the point, what idiot uses their ISP's email in a site to download illegal movies)? RIAA doesn't have your email address.

No, what Google is doing is cross referencing the IP that you use at a particular time, and then forwards the request to your email.

Further, as the article said, Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T don't do this sort of cave in to RIAA. They tell RIAA to "get bent" and do their own foot work and find out the email address and sent it themselves.



Hmph.


I work at a company that provides internet access, and we get those emails all the time. We strictly just forward it to customers so that they are aware, but we don't provide the customers information to the MPAA, or RIAA. I guess we are slightly different.
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Sorry, but no, that's not all they are doing.

What pirate site do you log in to that takes your email (more to the point, what idiot uses their ISP's email in a site to download illegal movies)? RIAA doesn't have your email address.

No, what Google is doing is cross referencing the IP that you use at a particular time, and then forwards the request to your email.

Further, as the article said, Comcast, Verizon, and AT&T don't do this sort of cave in to RIAA. They tell RIAA to "get bent" and do their own foot work and find out the email address and sent it themselves.
Don't take what someone said, add a bunch of stuff they didn't say just to try and make you correct.

He never said you give a pirate site your email. He said Google receives notices from these organizations. They provide them with the "evidence" which includes an IP. Google then forwards that email to your email address if you are assigned that IP.

Am I agreeing with Google? No, I'd prefer not to see these emails, but it doesn't appear they send some sort of confirmation to these organizations saying they sent the customer the request. That means, it works the same as it does with the other three providers you mentioned. They send a fee request and never hear if it went to the customer or not.
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Don't take what someone said, add a bunch of stuff they didn't say just to try and make you correct.

He never said you give a pirate site your email. He said Google receives notices from these organizations. They provide them with the "evidence" which includes an IP. Google then forwards that email to your email address if you are assigned that IP.

Dude, that is basically what I said. rolleyes.gif
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Originally Posted by 47 Knucklehead View Post

No, what Google is doing is cross referencing the IP that you use at a particular time, and then forwards the request to your email.


And since anyone with an IQ above 75 can spoof an IP address, all this garbage does is basically amount to unsubstantiated harassment by your ISP.
Edited by 47 Knucklehead - 5/21/15 at 5:13am
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