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So in short, dont buy a game on pre-release material especially so if that is the material that convinced you to pre-order.

Duh.
    
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Originally Posted by edo101 View Post

Why did the graphics change?

"If you're looking at the development process," Iwinski begins, "we do a certain build for a tradeshow and you pack it, it works, it looks amazing. And you are extremely far away from completing the game. Then you put it in the open-world, regardless of the platform, and it's like 'oh ****, it doesn't really work'. We've already showed it, now we have to make it work. And then we try to make it work on a huge scale.
This is the nature of games development."

Morrowind E3 reveal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztDWGLuEsdc

Oblivion E3 reveal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2-6vi9k65o

Skyrim E3 reveal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjqsYzBrP-M

All open world games that didn't need graphical lies in the trailer, and I could go on with plenty more games...

All those excuses from them tell me is that they are poor liars, or an inexperienced developer. The bottom line is they accepted that console cash and that's all they had to say.
Edited by SoloCamo - 5/20/15 at 4:57pm
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So in short, dont buy a game on pre-release material especially so if that is the material that convinced you to pre-order.

Duh.

Yep, no matter what dev is involved. Pre-ordering should disappear.
Sad thing they had to reach for consoles, truth hurts. lol
My last time reading posts about Witcher 3 I don't mind nice graphics but its the story I'm interested in.
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No, I didn't, and you are full of crap in this post. Don't put words in my mouth.

I said they didn't do anything WRONG in downgrading the visuals to their final version, and I said that I thought it was obvious for the past year that a downgrade was in place and therefore can't understand why everyone got so upset about it now. I've also argued that despite the downgrade, the game still looks great.

If you care to interact with things I posted in other threads, please, feel free to actually quote me.

You are right you never said there was no downgrade, sorry. It's just "shilling" from anyone annoys me for some reason, I probably do it aswell when I am biased/emotionaly invested in a game.

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Yep, no matter what dev is involved. Pre-ordering should disappear.
Sad thing they had to reach for consoles, truth hurts. lol
My last time reading posts about Witcher 3 I don't mind nice graphics but its the story I'm interested in.

This was another thing anyone from the UK notice what they did on steam? They raised the price from £35 to £50 then offered a £15 "discount" bringing it back to the regular price of pc games "forcing" alot of hands into pre ordering, mines included as I did not want to pay £50 it's a very dirty tactic imo.
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Originally Posted by SoloCamo View Post

Morrowind E3 reveal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztDWGLuEsdc

Oblivion E3 reveal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2-6vi9k65o

Skyrim E3 reveal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjqsYzBrP-M

All open world games that didn't need graphical lies in the trailer, and I could go on with plenty more games...

All those excuses from them tell me is that they are poor liars, or an inexperienced developer. The bottom line is they accepted that console cash.

Thank you! I srsly have never seen grass look soo bad in a game. The sad thing is people on Eurogamer are eating his PR spill up.

And I am done buying graphics cards for anything more than 300 bucks. With how much juice these devs squeeze out of these consoles I am inclined to think we are all just pawns of a highly upgrade based business where little is done to optimize for PC. Yes we have intels and amd rigs but with how GPU dependent most games are, you cannot tell me it makes sense that you need 1K GPU to run games even at 60fps and 1440p.

I mean look at Nvidia Hairworks in this game and how still human hair even in close ups look comparable on PS4 and looks worse on some than what I have seen on the Last of Us. I think to push Hairworks. Abandon common sense to push your API. Would make sense since I've heard that in the past, they had Devs over tessellate simple objects just to kill performance and sell better cards. I know it sounds paranoid but if the Last of Us can have hair that good on PS3, I am inclined to think we Nvidia just wanted to say hey, look at what you can achieve on HW. And no I am not redirecting this on Nvidia, but for AMD as well.
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Conveniently waited until after the game launched and pre-orders were fulfilled to address it. Nothing strange fo sho :3
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I like the game but this console pairity crap needs to stop. Who cares if a ultra setting Witcher 3 makes console Witcher 3 look bad? Console gamers don't typically buy consoles because they're expecting the best graphics. They buy consoles because of budget and/or accessibility.

One doesn't go car shopping expecting a Austin Martin only to settle for a Kia unless they have completely broken expectations.
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Originally Posted by SoloCamo View Post

Morrowind E3 reveal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztDWGLuEsdc

Oblivion E3 reveal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2-6vi9k65o

Skyrim E3 reveal

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PjqsYzBrP-M

All open world games that didn't need graphical lies in the trailer, and I could go on with plenty more games...

All those excuses from them tell me is that they are poor liars, or an inexperienced developer. The bottom line is they accepted that console cash and that's all they had to say.
Sigh

They exactly said they were inexperienced with open world games, hence the whole downgrade.

I swear people don't even read what they comment on.
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Originally Posted by SoloCamo View Post

All open world games that didn't need graphical lies in the trailer, and I could go on with plenty more games....

Do you understand what the definition of "lying" is? They didn't lie, because:
Quote:
Marcin Iwinski picks it up: "Maybe we shouldn't have shown that [trailer], I don't know, but we didn't know that it wasn't going to work, so it's not a lie or a bad will

At best you have a case of he-said-she-said and I'm sorry but there's no reason not to trust them on this.
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Originally Posted by SoloCamo View Post

The bottom line is they accepted that console cash and that's all they had to say.

For which you should be thankful:
Quote:
Developing only for the PC: yes, probably we could get more [in terms of graphics] as there would be nothing else - they would be so focused, like if we would develop only on Xbox One or PlayStation 4. But then we cannot afford such a game

Edited by BigMack70 - 5/20/15 at 5:21pm
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I don't get it, why all the fuss ?
I think that game looks absolutely awesome and I'm having a blast playing it, don't really care about anything else, now off to kill some monsters medieval.gif
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