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post #1471 of 2071
For anyone wondering, increasing my VCCSA to 1.05V (I was using the stock 0.84V) allowed me to put my cache back up to 4.375GHz with 3333MHz RAM at 1.2V. Core is 4.625GHz at 1.260V (it seems the temperature increase from the cache frequency and voltage jump required me to move my core voltage higher?). I'm working on getting my RAM timings down now (primary only; I don't have the patience for more than that), but I was going on 14-15-14-34-1T 3333MHz at 1.35V. Everything is tested with RealBench (1.5 hrs before I got impatient) and Aida64 (2.5 hrs on cache) to be stable. Unfortunately, my load temperatures were in the mid-80s due to the high ambient temperature around 28-29C, so I'm not sure I want to push core higher even though I would appear to have voltage headroom.

I did try bumping the core multiplier up but was getting errors pretty quickly. Would it be worth it to drop cache multiplier and try upping the core? I know the core is more important, but I'm thinking in terms of temperatures which has more effect.
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post #1472 of 2071
Hi, people on this thread. Could someone help me out and give me a quick and easy overclock settings like SS because I am a noob and the only thing i ever overclocked was on the ivy bridge cpus. I'm only on planning to oc the core on my cpu and nothing else that is too crazy and possibly some settings that turn the voltage down while i'm idle nad have it ramp back up when I actually need it. I'm also using some XMP profiles for 3000mhx dominator ram. Yeah I'm kinda late to the x99 party rocking the I7 5820k but I got a sweet bundle deal on them for 499$ USD

or would you reckon I go with the OC tuner on the motherboard? I also have a 360 liquid AIO from swiftech.
post #1473 of 2071
Ha, so AIDA64 and RealBench both suck for testing RAM. Both said my ridiculous RAM timings were perfectly stable, but MemTest says otherwise. Looks like I actually have crappy DIMMs.
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Hi, people on this thread. Could someone help me out and give me a quick and easy overclock settings like SS because I am a noob and the only thing i ever overclocked was on the ivy bridge cpus. I'm only on planning to oc the core on my cpu and nothing else that is too crazy and possibly some settings that turn the voltage down while i'm idle nad have it ramp back up when I actually need it. I'm also using some XMP profiles for 3000mhx dominator ram. Yeah I'm kinda late to the x99 party rocking the I7 5820k but I got a sweet bundle deal on them for 499$ USD

or would you reckon I go with the OC tuner on the motherboard? I also have a 360 liquid AIO from swiftech.
The OC tuner will apply too much voltage.

I would recommend starting with the following:
1.25V @ 4.3GHz core
1.15V @ 3.8GHz cache
100:133 RAM divider
100MHz strap and BCLK

Those voltages above should be conservative so you can tweak them if you'd like. Set up RAM with XMP or enter in primary timings manually (I prefer the latter but if you're not tweaking things a lot it may not be necessary to do it manually). Make sure your DIMM voltages are set to 1.35V though if you use 3000MHz RAM. You'll need to look through this thread to find VCCIO settings, as I'm not home to look them up for you and don't remember; someone else may remember and respond. VCCSA can be set to +0.200V, but you probably won't need quite that high if you don't intend to push things far. I believe everything else was left to Auto for voltages, but someone can step in and correct me.

There is also a Haswell overclocking guide on these forums that you should search for and read.
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post #1474 of 2071
Sorry to hear that Stargate.
Do you know what is the IC chip of your DDR4? Samsung or Hynix? I found Samsung chips to be way more superior in terms of stability and performance.
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post #1475 of 2071
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Sorry to hear that Stargate.
Do you know what is the IC chip of your DDR4? Samsung or Hynix? I found Samsung chips to be way more superior in terms of stability and performance.
It's this kit, so I'm pretty sure it's Samsung. They just don't want to operate much better than listed settings. Part of me wants to run it with the ridiculous timings anyway, as if RealBench and AIDA64 didn't show errors after a combined ~7 hours of stress testing, what game is going to? I still get them to run at 3333MHz, but it requires CL17 and not 14, and with 2T and not 1T if I want the timings tighter, for MemTest to not complain.
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post #1476 of 2071
Those are actually some of the best DDR4 RAM on market you can buy as of right now. Samsung chips for sure.

I know GSKILL does aggresively binning on all their purchased RAM ICs from Samsung or Hynix. They do it to almost gurantee that you can run them at the advertised XMP spec. However any overclock from there will be a lottery draw. There is not much headroom in DDR4 overclocking. If these chips are stable say at DDR4-4000 GSKILL would have binned them that way already, or at least binned them into the DDR4-3600 grade.

Honestly speaking I find stability is more important for me right now. Which is why I shelled out big money for high speed 128GB kits rather than DDR4-2133 128GB kit. At least I don;t have to worry about stability issue any more.

I would suggest against going to max performance. DDR4 chips might degrade over time. My old ADATA 32GB set did just that. From solid at DDR4-2800 to unbootable in a matter of 8 months.
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post #1477 of 2071
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Ha, so AIDA64 and RealBench both suck for testing RAM. Both said my ridiculous RAM timings were perfectly stable, but MemTest says otherwise. Looks like I actually have crappy DIMMs.
The OC tuner will apply too much voltage.

I would recommend starting with the following:
1.25V @ 4.3GHz core
1.15V @ 3.8GHz cache
100:133 RAM divider
100MHz strap and BCLK

Those voltages above should be conservative so you can tweak them if you'd like. Set up RAM with XMP or enter in primary timings manually (I prefer the latter but if you're not tweaking things a lot it may not be necessary to do it manually). Make sure your DIMM voltages are set to 1.35V though if you use 3000MHz RAM. You'll need to look through this thread to find VCCIO settings, as I'm not home to look them up for you and don't remember; someone else may remember and respond. VCCSA can be set to +0.200V, but you probably won't need quite that high if you don't intend to push things far. I believe everything else was left to Auto for voltages, but someone can step in and correct me.

There is also a Haswell overclocking guide on these forums that you should search for and read.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will try just that, i tried looking at the haswell E overclocking leaderboards, there's just too many posts and most of the people there are like posting some crazy overclocks that they got, without an actual guide. but none the less thanks, and how would I go about for the adaptive voltage thing? On the thread i notice some people put + and - signs and I'm not sure where they are getting the voltage read outs.
post #1478 of 2071
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Originally Posted by TheChankWhoGank View Post

Quote:
Originally Posted by stargate125645 View Post

Ha, so AIDA64 and RealBench both suck for testing RAM. Both said my ridiculous RAM timings were perfectly stable, but MemTest says otherwise. Looks like I actually have crappy DIMMs.
The OC tuner will apply too much voltage.

I would recommend starting with the following:
1.25V @ 4.3GHz core
1.15V @ 3.8GHz cache
100:133 RAM divider
100MHz strap and BCLK

Those voltages above should be conservative so you can tweak them if you'd like. Set up RAM with XMP or enter in primary timings manually (I prefer the latter but if you're not tweaking things a lot it may not be necessary to do it manually). Make sure your DIMM voltages are set to 1.35V though if you use 3000MHz RAM. You'll need to look through this thread to find VCCIO settings, as I'm not home to look them up for you and don't remember; someone else may remember and respond. VCCSA can be set to +0.200V, but you probably won't need quite that high if you don't intend to push things far. I believe everything else was left to Auto for voltages, but someone can step in and correct me.

There is also a Haswell overclocking guide on these forums that you should search for and read.

Thanks for the suggestion, I will try just that, i tried looking at the haswell E overclocking leaderboards, there's just too many posts and most of the people there are like posting some crazy overclocks that they got, without an actual guide. but none the less thanks, and how would I go about for the adaptive voltage thing? On the thread i notice some people put + and - signs and I'm not sure where they are getting the voltage read outs.
I said to use the Haswell Overclocking Guide, not the leaderboard.

Figure out what it takes for a constant voltage, and then you can change the BIOS to do adaptive. I set this voltage difference to be applied regardless of the turbo (you'll see two options when you put your BIOS into adaptive voltage mode), as I couldn't get it to split between the two and be stable, but others have. To find what your adaptive voltage is, you compare your overclocked voltage to what your stock voltage is under load and that difference is your adaptive voltage. Note that adaptive voltage only works for the core voltage. The cache voltage cannot be made to be adaptive once you reach a certain frequency. I've not messed with putting other voltages as adaptive, so I cannot state whether they work.
Edited by stargate125645 - 7/19/16 at 1:31pm
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post #1479 of 2071
Oh thanks so much, I didn't know I could use this guide, i thought i had to find one that was specific to the x99 cpus. Thank you !
post #1480 of 2071
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Oh thanks so much, I didn't know I could use this guide, i thought i had to find one that was specific to the x99 cpus. Thank you !
Not all of the motherboard settings he talks about apply, but the definitions are useful and the steps for tweaking frequencies and voltages still apply.

I never changed my C-states or LLC, and I don't remember how to do it on the Sabertooth offhand, so someone else will have to explain that, too.
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