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post #1511 of 2033
Updated to 3301 no issues at all.
post #1512 of 2033
Updated to 3301. Major RAM performance increase. System stability and overclocking is not affected. Highly recommended!

Be careful do not power off after update. This 3301 BIOS also updated the Intel Management Engine.

3101 BIOS



3301 BIOS
post #1513 of 2033
That is massive!

+1
post #1514 of 2033
I wonder if this will help memory stability? I haven't gotten around to RMAing my 3200 set yet, so it's worth another stability test I guess.
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post #1515 of 2033
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I wonder if this will help memory stability? I haven't gotten around to RMAing my 3200 set yet, so it's worth another stability test I guess.

You mean your GSKill set wont work at their XMP rated speed? That is weird.
post #1516 of 2033
Oh and ASUS updated Haswell-E microcode from 36 to 38. Adaptative cache voltage might work now.

Consider Microcode as CPU firmware. This update probably has some good benefits waiting for us to discover.
post #1517 of 2033
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I wonder if this will help memory stability? I haven't gotten around to RMAing my 3200 set yet, so it's worth another stability test I guess.

You mean your GSKill set wont work at their XMP rated speed? That is weird.
With my CPU and everything else at stock, memory will not operate at XMP levels without errors, no. Everything operates fine with XMP settings 99% of the time, including in games - and I am even able to get ridiculously tight timings stable with AIDA and RealBench. But, MemTest gives me failures unless I loosen timings to CL17. As I paid a butt load for the kit, G.Skill can afford to send me a replacement for me to test things out even if there is a slight chance I just have a really crappy IMC on my CPU. If the new kit doesn't work either, I'll assume it is the IMC. At that point, if my chip weren't stable for cache and core at such a low voltage, I would look into buying a new CPU, but since core performance is more beneficial than memory performance, it seems I should stick with the current CPU even if it turns out to have a pissy IMC. But, I will update to the new BIOS and test again to see if anything has improved in the off chance I can save everyone some time and don't need to do an RMA.

Edit:
I may test out adaptive cache if I get the memory cooperating with my setup. (Adaptive cache technically works currently, but only at a very mild overclock and when using Intel's XTU.) It would be interesting if it does work now, though, as ASUS has said it is Intel's problem, so if Intel has had this fix released for a while then ASUS has just been lazy which is sad.
Edited by stargate125645 - 7/28/16 at 9:40am
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post #1518 of 2033
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With my CPU and everything else at stock, memory will not operate at XMP levels without errors, no. Everything operates fine with XMP settings 99% of the time, including in games - and I am even able to get ridiculously tight timings stable with AIDA and RealBench. But, MemTest gives me failures unless I loosen timings to CL17. As I paid a butt load for the kit, G.Skill can afford to send me a replacement for me to test things out even if there is a slight chance I just have a really crappy IMC on my CPU. If the new kit doesn't work either, I'll assume it is the IMC. At that point, if my chip weren't stable for cache and core at such a low voltage, I would look into buying a new CPU, but since core performance is more beneficial than memory performance, it seems I should stick with the current CPU even if it turns out to have a pissy IMC. But, I will update to the new BIOS and test again to see if anything has improved in the off chance I can save everyone some time and don't need to do an RMA.

Edit:
I may test out adaptive cache if I get the memory cooperating with my setup. (Adaptive cache technically works currently, but only at a very mild overclock and when using Intel's XTU.) It would be interesting if it does work now, though, as ASUS has said it is Intel's problem, so if Intel has had this fix released for a while then ASUS has just been lazy which is sad.

Very likely it is IMC. Haswell-E IMC is still considered inferior comparing to Broadwell-E. From the Broadwell-E overclocking guide on ROG forum it seems people to BWE are having a lot less trouble running high speed kits as well as 128GB kits.
Edited by xkm1948 - 7/28/16 at 11:14am
post #1519 of 2033
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With my CPU and everything else at stock, memory will not operate at XMP levels without errors, no. Everything operates fine with XMP settings 99% of the time, including in games - and I am even able to get ridiculously tight timings stable with AIDA and RealBench. But, MemTest gives me failures unless I loosen timings to CL17. As I paid a butt load for the kit, G.Skill can afford to send me a replacement for me to test things out even if there is a slight chance I just have a really crappy IMC on my CPU. If the new kit doesn't work either, I'll assume it is the IMC. At that point, if my chip weren't stable for cache and core at such a low voltage, I would look into buying a new CPU, but since core performance is more beneficial than memory performance, it seems I should stick with the current CPU even if it turns out to have a pissy IMC. But, I will update to the new BIOS and test again to see if anything has improved in the off chance I can save everyone some time and don't need to do an RMA.

Edit:
I may test out adaptive cache if I get the memory cooperating with my setup. (Adaptive cache technically works currently, but only at a very mild overclock and when using Intel's XTU.) It would be interesting if it does work now, though, as ASUS has said it is Intel's problem, so if Intel has had this fix released for a while then ASUS has just been lazy which is sad.

Very likely it is IMC. Haswell-E IMC is still considered inferior comparing to Broadwell-E. From the Broadwell-E overclocking guide on ROG forum it seems people to BWE are having a lot less trouble running high speed kits as well as 128GB kits.
You said yourself that it was weird, so while it's possible it is the IMC (as I noted as well earlier) this is the only way for me to find out for sure without spending a butt load more money on another kit. Truthfully, it would be strange for the IMC to effectively require the same set of timings regardless of what my cache is set to, as the two should relate to one another in overloading the IMC.
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post #1520 of 2033
Failing XMP does not really point to a bad Memory kit nor sub par IMC. It's a known issue with X99.

Manual allows it on most people. Setting up the primary timings is more effective than XMP.
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