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post #1531 of 2071
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Upgrading the BIOS will clear those.

Tip: buy another set. biggrin.gif
Those are Samsung B-Dies I believe. And they work pretty well with X99. Mustbof been a bad batch on your end.

Edit: aren't those rated for dual channel?
The QVL on G.Skill's website shows them for the Z170, which is dual channel. But, as the kit comes with 4 sticks that were tested together, it shouldn't make a difference as long as the CPU can use the timings, and I see many setups that are using similar timings and speeds. ASUS's QVL shows similar sets from G.Skill but with CL16 timings that are quad channel. So it's possible that it just won't work at CL14 for me with my CPU, but I wasn't even getting CL16 to work with this set. Many others have gotten much better performance out of lesser RAM sticks, and these were highly recommended on this site (maybe even this thread?) for the X99 chipset because of the Samsung ICs.
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post #1532 of 2071
Just get the equivalent quads this time. http://www.gskill.com/en/finder?cat=31&series=0&prop_14=0&prop_2=0&prop_3=3200MHz&prop_4=0&prop_1=0&prop_6=Quad+Channel+Kit
post #1533 of 2071
Those are the exact same except looser timings though? The current kit should therefore work at those timings.
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post #1534 of 2071
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Those are the exact same except looser timings though? The current kit should therefore work at those timings.

Sorry, missed a filter in there.

http://www.gskill.com/en/finder?cat=31&series=0&prop_2=0&prop_4=14-14-14-34-2N&prop_6=Quad+Channel+Kit&prop_3=3200MHz

In all honesty, I think they use the same RAM Chips except for little timings and/or testing that proved them worthy of the QUAD Channel Specs.

I have used B-Die Ripjaws Vs rated at 3200 16-18-18-35-2T that fails to work as a quad. Not to mention 4 sets of them. I can run a stick at 3200 13-13-13-35 and not fail a test. Binned 4 sticks out of 16 from the same model mentioned. But, they won't work as Quads.

Popped the heatspreder to reveal the ICs. B-Dies confirmed that most people recommends and tested to work perfectly for this platform. Yet again, they won't work as quads at 3200 16-18-18-35-1T.

http://www.gskill.com/en/product/f4-3200c16q-32gvkb

^ Kit in question.

It could be a platform limitation or some nitty gritty stuff going on. thumb.gif


I run them all at 2666 14-14-14-33-1T which for 4 months now, didn't have a glitch.
post #1535 of 2071
That is the kit I have, though. They all have a Q in the model name, meaning quad channel. Those are literally the exact same set I have except different colors (which G.Skill just released). It looks like they are certified newly for BW-E only, which presumably means so would be mine. I will try to make CL16 work. If that does not, I don't see how the kit can be considered good since CL16 quad channel kits are certified for HW-E and our motherboard.

Edit: Or does the Q not mean quad channel, but 4 sticks? (In which case I got bad advice on this site for the set to buy for X99, which is not cool.) I'm out the money for the sticks regardless, so I might as well try to make them work at the same settings as the others.
Edited by stargate125645 - 7/29/16 at 8:58pm
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post #1536 of 2071
Well, it appears as though 16-18-18-38-2T works (the same timings as the kits you linked to above). Thus, it wouldn't do me any good to get those kits. There is only one kit available with better timings (the 14-14-14-34-2T), so I ask what you all think in terms of whether the performance would be worth it. I could probably sell my current kit for $195 shipped, which means I'd be out ~$50 by getting the CL14 quad channel kit, with no guarantee that it'll operate at that level for me anyway.
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post #1537 of 2071
Do you really need the performance?

I mean, can you distinguish the difference between them if you can get the other kit to run at 14-14-14-34-1T without looking at benchmarks numbers?

I would be getting that C14 kit as I need it benchmarking. That's just me.
post #1538 of 2071
I guess the question is whether it is worth the risk of not working. Of course it's necessary for benchmarking! :-)
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post #1539 of 2071
My CL14 kit from GSKill works great at rated XMP. I have no regret going for the best knowing it will serve me well for at least 8 yrs.
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post #1540 of 2071
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My CL14 kit from GSKill works great at rated XMP. I have no regret going for the best knowing it will serve me well for at least 8 yrs.
I don't know if I'll be keeping the system quite that long, but several years at least. I'm disappointed the kit is only available in silver and white, though. I'll probably get it anyway and just remove the white plastic pieces.

I did manage to get 16-18-18-38-1T stable out of these dual channel sticks, which is the same as the majority of the quad channel sets that G.Skill sells but with a better command rate. Not sure if that's good or not... 16-16-16-36-1T would simply not work. This with 4.6 core and 4.4 cache. I need to reseat my heat sink, so I may be able to up the core further if temperatures improve a few degrees. I also intend to get a second fan for the heat sink, but reviews show I will only gain a degree or two from that if anything.
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