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post #561 of 1985
Here is another guy on X99-A with system cold boot stability issue, kinda like yours:

http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-2289477/asus-x99-deluxe-reading-xmp-profiles-corsair-ddr4-memory-kit.html
post #562 of 1985
OK Imp, try the following. Enable FastBoot in BIOS and initialize ALL devices. In windows 10 make sure you enable fast boot in power options. Disable CSM in boot menu as well.
post #563 of 1985
Just tried it. Just will not post as soon as I set it to 3000. I don't think it's even getting to the stage where fastboot would engage. On the plus side, with the settings you gave me, my BIOS now comes up on my center screen instead of my left screen, making it easier to interact. I like that part. Still need to get past the 3000mhz post issue though. It's like the memory isn't getting enough of something at post time. I know the memory can run at 3000.. I've had it like that for weeks.. just that with this BIOS version it won't go there.

There must be a setting somewhere which will get it past whatever part of the init it's failing on.
post #564 of 1985
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Originally Posted by InfiniteImp View Post

Just tried it. Just will not post as soon as I set it to 3000. I don't think it's even getting to the stage where fastboot would engage. On the plus side, with the settings you gave me, my BIOS now comes up on my center screen instead of my left screen, making it easier to interact. I like that part. Still need to get past the 3000mhz post issue though. It's like the memory isn't getting enough of something at post time. I know the memory can run at 3000.. I've had it like that for weeks.. just that with this BIOS version it won't go there.

There must be a setting somewhere which will get it past whatever part of the init it's failing on.

2101 is not friendly to XMP settings. To put it simply it would not read most XMP profiles, well minus moose's Corsair Dominator which we have seen working beautifully. When I first upgraded to 2101 the system cannot detect my XMP. I set it to XMP and the BCLK remains at 100. As a result setting it to 2800 with 100 BCLK will cause either failure to POST or POST with only parital memory being found. I was pretty angry.

After that I started experimenting with the settings. I manually put in all of my previous XMP settings, including all of the 2nd and 3rd DRAM timings. This finally fixed my problem. I can boot with 2800 and all of them are recognized.


Even moose said it multiple times that he believe ASUS improved XMP detection. However I don' t think so. ASUS messed up in XMP detection big time. Since all three of us X99 cannot read the XMP at 125BCLK. All of our XMP have been adjusted to 100BCLK, this indicates some serious problem with XMP recognition. Corsair Dominator serires have pretty good quality memory chips, almost cherry picked I would say. Which may explain how moose has no problem booting his RAM sets to 2800 with 100BLCK. I know my ADATA set doesn't utilize some fancy Samsung memory modules(it has Hynix chips, cheap and well, just cheap). This may explain why I have so much trouble as well.

Don't give up just yet! Experiment with the manual settings as well as DRAM timings. You might get it to work again. Also make sure you MANUALLY set your DRAM voltage to 1.33V in BIOS. ASUS tend to over-volt memory modules, So if you set it to 1.35V it will end up being 1.37V.
post #565 of 1985
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XMP kinda sucks for me on 2101. However i do get more stable as well as higher CPU OC on 2101.

Moose, come on man, we are waiting gor your 5930k OC report! You get top of the line AIO, dont waste the potential.

What is AIO?

OC?, I have no idea what I'm doing! Sure, bump the speed, bump the voltage, bump this, bump that, but really I love XMP biggrin.gif

If you detail an OC spec I'll give it a shot.

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Also moose, did you ever try to unlock your Fury to full 4096sp?

I have 2 R9 Fury, tried unlocking them both and got massive artifacts in 3D Mark, reverted back. I have one being replaced now due to a bad display port, so I might try again one at a time, but honestly with 2 in Crossfire I am simply not going to notice any significant performance increase unlocking them. 5 percent maybe? It's not worth the risk of bricking them fiddling.

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2101 is not friendly to XMP settings. To put it simply it would not read most XMP profiles, well minus moose's Corsair Dominator which we have seen working beautifully. When I first upgraded to 2101 the system cannot detect my XMP. I set it to XMP and the BCLK remains at 100. As a result setting it to 2800 with 100 BCLK will cause either failure to POST or POST with only parital memory being found. I was pretty angry.

After that I started experimenting with the settings. I manually put in all of my previous XMP settings, including all of the 2nd and 3rd DRAM timings. This finally fixed my problem. I can boot with 2800 and all of them are recognized.

Even moose said it multiple times that he believe ASUS improved XMP detection. However I don' t think so. ASUS messed up in XMP detection big time. Since all three of us X99 cannot read the XMP at 125BCLK. All of our XMP have been adjusted to 100BCLK, this indicates some serious problem with XMP recognition. Corsair Dominator serires have pretty good quality memory chips, almost cherry picked I would say. Which may explain how moose has no problem booting his RAM sets to 2800 with 100BLCK. I know my ADATA set doesn't utilize some fancy Samsung memory modules(it has Hynix chips, cheap and well, just cheap). This may explain why I have so much trouble as well.

Don't give up just yet! Experiment with the manual settings as well as DRAM timings. You might get it to work again. Also make sure you MANUALLY set your DRAM voltage to 1.33V in BIOS. ASUS tend to over-volt memory modules, So if you set it to 1.35V it will end up being 1.37V.

I said I think XMP has been improved for my rig, but I'm the only report so far with Corsair Dominator ram.

I have everything on Auto, so it set CPU & BLCK @ 100, I didn't adjust anything. It looks like XMP behaves differently for other ram manufacturers / kits, I'm not surprised.

I may never update this system BIOS since 2101 is working great! thumb.gif
Edited by Undermoose - 1/24/16 at 4:14pm
post #566 of 1985
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Originally Posted by InfiniteImp View Post

I'm sitting here and thinking.. should I just go and get a Rampage V Extreme? I've only had the Sabertooth for a month but it's making me jump through more hoops than I'd like.

The reason you got the Sabertooth X99 was because you recognize how cool a motherboard it is thumb.gif

Did you clear your CMOS after updating the BIOS? (i.e. remove battery and set jumper then put jumper back and put battery back in). It's very important to do.
post #567 of 1985
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Originally Posted by Undermoose View Post

The reason you got the Sabertooth X99 was because you recognize how cool a motherboard it is thumb.gif

Did you clear your CMOS after updating the BIOS? (i.e. remove battery and set jumper then put jumper back and put battery back in). It's very important to do.

No doubt it's a cool board. However, I can't get at the battery as it's under the TUF shield and under a video card. There has to be another solution. Is the CLRTC jumper enough? I remember you (or someone else) saying that both are needed but man I'd have to pull the whole thing apart (including the liquid cooling loop). It's just a major hassle.
post #568 of 1985
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No doubt it's a cool board. However, I can't get at the battery as it's under the TUF shield and under a video card. There has to be another solution. Is the CLRTC jumper enough? I remember you (or someone else) saying that both are needed but man I'd have to pull the whole thing apart (including the liquid cooling loop). It's just a major hassle.

Nope, that's the Achilles heal of this mobo, if you don't have an Android Phone or Tablet to control the mobo via the USB connector then you have to remove the video card and the cover to get at the battery, but you don't need to remove to NVMe device...
post #569 of 1985
By the way guys, just remember that the IMC is also a culprit for running memory at particular speeds.

If your IMC isn't up to scratch it will NOT train the memory modules.

One other thing as well is that DDR4-3000 is extremely hard to run @ 100BCLK. Try loosening up your timings by 2 EG if you have ddr4 3000 CL15-17-17-35 give CL17-19-19-38 a try @ 3200 with blck at 100, as this seems to be a little easier on the IMC than 3000 @ 100 (there seems to be a black hole between 2800 and 3100 with the X99 platform for memory speeds).

The other thing as well, ensure that your VCCIN is ~1.905, and also your system agent is NOT on auto. 1.16v-1.2v for SA @ those speeds seems to be roughly where i was able to get it stable @ 3200.
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post #570 of 1985
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Nope, that's the Achilles heal of this mobo, if you don't have an Android Phone or Tablet to control the mobo via the USB connector then you have to remove the video card and the cover to get at the battery, but you don't need to remove to NVMe device...

Dude... i've never had to do this once in the time i've had the board, and i've had PLENTY of times where i needed to clear the cmos, and the jumper has done fine. The whole point of the jumper is to cut power from the battery to the CMOS to clear it AFAIK.
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