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post #741 of 1985
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1.5 vCore? Haven't you fried your CPU already>

That's what I thought was going to happen it jumped up to 1.5 in voltage indicator and I quickly stopped benchmarking and rebooted my system deleting my oc
post #742 of 1985
I'm looking at this board for a new rig, so maybe you guys can answer some questions I have about it...
* Does adding an M.2 SSD take any PCIe lanes away from a dual GPU setup with this board?
* How easy is it to put two M.2 drives in RAID given there is only one native port (or maybe it's not worth it)?
* Do the USB headers and rear panel plugs go through their own channels or do they take away from the PCIe lanes of the GPU, M.2, etc., that go directly to the CPU?
* The RAM I'm looking at (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233907&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=) for this motherboard and either a 5820K or 5930K CPU says it is quad channel capable, so I presume it would work well with this motherboard and a Haswell-E. Any idea if the RAM will fit with my existing cooler (TRUE 120 Black) or should I need to get a new air cooler?
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post #743 of 1985
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I'm looking at this board for a new rig, so maybe you guys can answer some questions I have about it...
* Does adding an M.2 SSD take any PCIe lanes away from a dual GPU setup with this board?
* How easy is it to put two M.2 drives in RAID given there is only one native port (or maybe it's not worth it)?
* Do the USB headers and rear panel plugs go through their own channels or do they take away from the PCIe lanes of the GPU, M.2, etc., that go directly to the CPU?
* The RAM I'm looking at (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233907&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=) for this motherboard and either a 5820K or 5930K CPU says it is quad channel capable, so I presume it would work well with this motherboard and a Haswell-E. Any idea if the RAM will fit with my existing cooler (TRUE 120 Black) or should I need to get a new air cooler?

1. Depends on the CPU. 5820k will work at reduced rate i believe?, 5930k+ has enough lanes to work fine.
2. Not worth it! They are already @ 2500mb reads and 2100 writes.... and nanosecond access times... why would you want more than even what sata ssd's offer!
3. Nope they go through the chipset, dedicated DMI lanes.
4. I don't recommend ram anymore. smile.gif
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post #744 of 1985
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1. Depends on the CPU. 5820k will work at reduced rate i believe?, 5930k+ has enough lanes to work fine.
2. Not worth it! They are already @ 2500mb reads and 2100 writes.... and nanosecond access times... why would you want more than even what sata ssd's offer!

1. Correct
2. Bragging rights, plus if you want to see a machine catch on fire this is a pretty good shot at making it happen! (joking). On a serious note, perhaps it's been said time is money? and if IOPS affect your bottom line on your PC then it has it's place. I'm trying to think where I read this applies and I believe 3d modeling? and/or things that need to update disk as they draw your video. The future is coming fast and we're just at the beginning of this. Don't think for a second we're "fast enough". MSI makes a board with 3 m.2 slots on the motherboard (FAST). But you're right, at present unless there is a special use case, SSD meets the need off the vast majority of PC's today, but I still built 2 PC's with m.2 smile.gif
post #745 of 1985
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1. Correct
2. Bragging rights, plus if you want to see a machine catch on fire this is a pretty good shot at making it happen! (joking). On a serious note, perhaps it's been said time is money? and if IOPS affect your bottom line on your PC then it has it's place. I'm trying to think where I read this applies and I believe 3d modeling? and/or things that need to update disk as they draw your video. The future is coming fast and we're just at the beginning of this. Don't think for a second we're "fast enough". MSI makes a board with 3 m.2 slots on the motherboard (FAST). But you're right, at present unless there is a special use case, SSD meets the need off the vast majority of PC's today, but I still built 2 PC's with m.2 smile.gif

If you are building something where the IOPS affect your bottom line... you wont' be doing it from a workstation computer with a sabertooth.

My SANs @ work push out close to 1 million iops per stack. We have around 19 stacks company wide.

These are consumer boards... hence i take consumer workloads into consideration when making my recommendations. In this case.... there REALLY isn't much difference between SSD's and m2 ssd's at this point in time when dealing with windows based apps/games apart from SQL/Modelling stuff, but again... you wouldn't have a sabertooth for that.
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post #746 of 1985
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I'm looking at this board for a new rig, so maybe you guys can answer some questions I have about it...
* Does adding an M.2 SSD take any PCIe lanes away from a dual GPU setup with this board?
* How easy is it to put two M.2 drives in RAID given there is only one native port (or maybe it's not worth it)?
* Do the USB headers and rear panel plugs go through their own channels or do they take away from the PCIe lanes of the GPU, M.2, etc., that go directly to the CPU?
* The RAM I'm looking at (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233907&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=) for this motherboard and either a 5820K or 5930K CPU says it is quad channel capable, so I presume it would work well with this motherboard and a Haswell-E. Any idea if the RAM will fit with my existing cooler (TRUE 120 Black) or should I need to get a new air cooler?

1. Depends on the CPU. 5820k will work at reduced rate i believe?, 5930k+ has enough lanes to work fine.
2. Not worth it! They are already @ 2500mb reads and 2100 writes.... and nanosecond access times... why would you want more than even what sata ssd's offer!
3. Nope they go through the chipset, dedicated DMI lanes.
4. I don't recommend ram anymore. smile.gif
You have the exact motherboard, CPU, and RAM I am looking at. So, the question is then are you able to fully utilize the RAM speed as advertised, or would you recommend getting faster or slower RAM? You don't need to recommend specific DIMMs. On the same note, is your CPU overclocking adequate with the Sabertooth? I'd also really appreciate a photo or two of your overclock settings as a "prime" for me if I go with this setup.

I take it then you suggest I just stay with my current SSD RAID-0 array? I have more IOPS currently than the Samsung 950 Pro M.2 offers but I was looking at speed as the reason to upgrade. However, I also see that the Samsung Pro is not as mature as it could be so I'll wait and perhaps upgrade in the future.

Lastly, I've not dealt with a Sabertooth motherboard before. Can I expect it to be sturdy enough to deal with a Noctua NH-D15S cooler with two fans? That's a 3lb cantilever force.
Edited by stargate125645 - 2/11/16 at 7:29pm
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post #747 of 1985
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You have the exact motherboard, CPU, and RAM I am looking at. So, the question is then are you able to fully utilize the RAM speed as advertised, or would you recommend getting faster or slower RAM? You don't need to recommend specific DIMMs. On the same note, is your CPU overclocking adequate with the Sabertooth? I'd also really appreciate a photo or two of your overclock settings as a "prime" for me if I go with this setup.

I take it then you suggest I just stay with my current SSD RAID-0 array? I have more IOPS currently than the Samsung 950 Pro M.2 offers but I was looking at speed as the reason to upgrade. However, I also see that the Samsung Pro is not as mature as it could be so I'll wait and perhaps upgrade in the future.

Lastly, I've not dealt with a Sabertooth motherboard before. Can I expect it to be sturdy enough to deal with a Noctua NH-D15S cooler with two fans? That's a 3lb cantilever force.


Dual fans D15S will make it a D15. Picture is better than words:

The board survived with the D15 on it during a 2250 miles travel from west coast to mid west in a completely crammed Uhaul truck. This is a tough motherboard I can assure you.



Edited by xkm1948 - 2/11/16 at 9:53pm
post #748 of 1985
I thought D15S was modified more than just eliminating 1 fan, in order to fit with RAM and GPUs better. Do we not need it for the Sabertooth? I can't tell in your picture of any PCIe slots are being blocked.

m0n4g3, any thoughts on your CPU and RAM performance with this motherboard given they are what I would buy?
Edited by stargate125645 - 2/12/16 at 7:19am
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post #749 of 1985
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If you are building something where the IOPS affect your bottom line... you wont' be doing it from a workstation computer with a sabertooth.

My SANs @ work push out close to 1 million iops per stack. We have around 19 stacks company wide.

These are consumer boards... hence i take consumer workloads into consideration when making my recommendations. In this case.... there REALLY isn't much difference between SSD's and m2 ssd's at this point in time when dealing with windows based apps/games apart from SQL/Modelling stuff, but again... you wouldn't have a sabertooth for that.

However, we are talking workstation and not corporate deployments, so I find your reply a touch off topic.

As to how one uses their PC "personal computer" you really don't know the use case, it varies. If you want to box the answer in to just the home enthusiast I think I agreed with you, but saying there is no use case is just a touch short sited.
post #750 of 1985
So the other day was playing Rise of the Tomb Raider (Which i won of the Anandtech drawing WOOO!!), and thought my over clock was stable with the latest bios and XMP enabled...WELL....got BSOD for memory fault. Went back to the drawing board. upped the memory voltage by .2V and boom no more issues. So for you guys having issues with XMP try upping the voltage slightly, who knows, maybe it will fix your issues.
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