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Hello guys, here is what i came to so far:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/KD14/saved/ttLnTW

My use will be games and Flight Simulator X (CPU bound) \ Prepar3d and im willing to overclock the CPU to 4.6Ghz and the memory to 1866Mhz.

So my questions:
-Will that PSU be enough, considering the big cpu cooler and my overclocking plan?

-Is that motherboard good enough for my overclocking plan for long time?

-Should i wait for the AMD 300 series and Skylake? (Im pretty impatience right now)

-Are 8GB of ram are enough or should i go for 16 for the years to come because im exceeding my budget already. (yea tough question, just your opinion...)

-About the RAM, most chances that the vengeance pro series are not available in my country, any differences from the older non-pro vengeance series?

-Im debating between the more pretty but ancient 400R and the newer 300R case (with only 1 fan at the front), any recommendations? other good cases which look similar?

Please share your thoughts, thank you very much!

UPDATED: more long term orientated system which i consider:
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/KD14/saved/QpVypg
(I also added a monitor)
Edited by KD14 - 5/22/15 at 1:49pm
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What store(s) can you order from? You mentioned that the Vengeance Pro Series isn't available in your country. What country is that?

 

My reason for asking is, is that really the best PSU that you can get? It's more than enough in wattage, but there are better for less. However, I would like to shop around using the store(s) websites that you can order from.

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post #3 of 11
The Seasonic M12II you picked is very well known for being really loud, so if you are looking for a quiet PSU the M12II is not the unit to pick.
And 620 watts is overkill a 450 watt unit could power that system.

Last replace that Antec AIO cooler with a good air cooler instead its going to be better more quiet cheaper and way more reliable.
AIO coolers are overrated and overhyped they are not as good as everyone think they are.
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post #4 of 11
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*I updated the MO to the regular Z97 (i chose the M by accident)
I live in israel so all the stores i can send you are in hebrew. Besides that its the best value for money i could find from what available in israel.
Shilka, what about the 550W minimum recommended by gigabyte?
bdw corsair's PSU's are available.
Edited by KD14 - 5/21/15 at 3:40am
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post #5 of 11
Companies tend to be rather conservative with power draw estimates and recommend more than what you actually need. It also isn't a bad idea to have more than you need if you plan on adding another card in the future. If you plan on staying with a single graphics card, then 450W is enough.
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Companies tend to be rather conservative with power draw estimates and recommend more than what you actually need. It also isn't a bad idea to have more than you need if you plan on adding another card in the future. If you plan on staying with a single graphics card, then 450W is enough.

 

Both NVIDIA and AMD make their recommendations based on mainstream systems being powered by a peak-rated PSU. I have discovered that most of the time their stated PSU requirement can be multiplied by .72 to get the +12V capacity recommendation.

 

For example, the 550W recommendation multiplied by .72 is 396W. Divided by 12 (for 12V power), that's exactly 33A. Pretty much any good quality-made 450W PSU that we would recommend has a +12V capacity of 444W (37A), so that would be plenty.

 

To take it even further, check this out:

 

http://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/nvidia_geforce_gtx_970_and_980_reference_review,7.html

 

With one GTX 970 under full load in their system, their PSU pulled 274W from the wall outlet. If I assume that their PSU was 90% efficient while pulling 274W from the wall, then that means the computer pulled 246-247W from the PSU. Now, if I add about 150W for a well-overclocked mainstream Intel CPU, then that comes out to be about 396-397W (the 396W here is a coincidence). While gaming, the power consumption would never go any higher than approximately 350W. If the CPU is just mildly overclocked, then the power consumption would be even lower.


Edited by TwoCables - 5/21/15 at 2:19pm
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post #7 of 11
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What about the overclocked RAM (lets take 4 sticks into account), hard drive, optical drive, powerful cpu cooler?
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I personally wouldn't use that cooler. You really shouldn't need anything more than an NH-U12S. You honestly shouldn't need more than a Hyper 212 Evo. I would also opt for this HDD instead.

I would consider getting a 250GB SSD since it's not that much more expensive. This one is about $30 more, so about 50% greater investment for 100% more capacity. Switching to a Phanteks PH-TC12DX would free up the money. You would also be saving around $19 by switching to the WD Blue HDD I suggested.

The RAM is just fine. Performance gains are rather negligible at higher frequencies. Tighter timings are preferable. RAM is arguably the worst area to spend extra money. Having four sticks will put unnecessary stress on the integrated memory controller and leave no room for more RAM down the road.
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I'd recommend u Get 2x8gb sticks instead, Gskill mades some very good Ram too, and if you can wait for AMD 3XX I'd do that
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What about the overclocked RAM (lets take 4 sticks into account), hard drive, optical drive, powerful cpu cooler?

 

Fortunately, these things are never enough of a consideration to ever worry about.

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Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (C:\) 250 GB Samsung 840 EVO (D:\) 150 GB WD VelociRaptor Samsung SH-S243N 24x DVD Burner 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung SH-S203N 20X DVD Burner Thermaltake Frio Win 7 Home Premium x64 SP1 Retail AOC G2460PG (24" 1920 x 1080 144Hz G-SYNC) 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Filco Majestouch 104-key Cherry MX Blues w/NKRO Corsair HX650 (Bronze, ordered on 12-12-2009) CM 690 Intellimouse Optical (1.1A) 1000Hz polling rate 
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