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What a crap article. Any company can go bankrupt by 2020.
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Ignoring the article; I still feel AMD needs to sell off either CPU or GPU and focus on one. But I said that in the past.
    
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Ignoring the article; I still feel AMD needs to sell off either CPU or GPU and focus on one. But I said that in the past.

At this point that seems like a killing blow to them if they did that. They seem completely locked into the HSA idea and their ARM design. They need both to make that happen.
     
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Ignoring the article; I still feel AMD needs to sell off either CPU or GPU and focus on one. But I said that in the past.

Unless they figure out to merge the technologies and apply a new embedded solution for superlight laptop powerhouses with crossfire and ****, ultrathin monoblocks, supersmall blades, et cetera.

Oh, if only game developers learned to use all the cores.
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Ignoring the article; I still feel AMD needs to sell off either CPU or GPU and focus on one. But I said that in the past.

Agreed.

And because of the x86/x64 issue with Intel, I think selling off the graphics division makes the most logical sense.

Bring back ATI !!!
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At this point that seems like a killing blow to them if they did that. They seem completely locked into the HSA idea and their ARM design. They need both to make that happen.

My concern is that Nvidia is kicking their ass in software and hardware, and Intel is kicking their ass in hardware. AMD just doesn't have the resources to fight both of those. Dropping one of those wars and fighting one really good one, instead of two terrible ones, I think is what they need to survive.

This last year has proven they aren't capable of doing more than that. Everything they have launched in the last couple of years has been half-baked and far from ready.
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Agreed.

And because of the x86/x64 issue with Intel, I think selling off the graphics division makes the most logical sense.

Bring back ATI !!!

Exactly what I was thinking.

Samsung buys AMD's GPU division, brings back the ATi name possibly. AMD then focuses on CPU again and we see the rebirth of the Athlon, really putting the screws to Intel.
    
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My concern is that Nvidia is kicking their ass in software and hardware, and Intel is kicking their ass in hardware. AMD just doesn't have the resources to fight both of those. Dropping one of those wars and fighting one really good one, instead of two terrible ones, I think is what they need to survive.

This last year has proven they aren't capable of doing more than that. Everything they have launched in the last couple of years has been half-baked and far from ready.

Well, if AMD was to pursue the most logical route of cutting it's losses then getting out of x86 (I do wonder if that would mean Intel couldn't use x86-64 anymore though) and jumping full force into ARM is the answer. ARM is the market that is going to grow more even if it's slowing down.
     
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Well, if AMD was to pursue the most logical route of cutting it's losses then getting out of x86 (I do wonder if that would mean Intel couldn't use x86-64 anymore though) and jumping full force into ARM is the answer. ARM is the market that is going to grow more even if it's slowing down.

AMD get out of x86-64?

Why would AMD get out of the one division that is growing and making them money? AMD lost ~$180 million in the first quarter on GPU, and lost market share as well.
    
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Ignoring the article; I still feel AMD needs to sell off either CPU or GPU and focus on one. But I said that in the past.

What? and get out of their 2 Front War they've been fighting? :rolleyes:

 

I have always thought that was a bad idea in the long run. 

 

The article was written to provide impetous for Short (movement) of stock. nothing more.

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Since AMD spun off its manufacturing business into GlobalFoundries in 2009, it means
revenue is now driven by pre- and post- production value chain activities, while competitors
such as Intel and Samsung, being integrated device manufacturers, still retain a production
advantage benefitting from in-house supply chain management. For instance, Intel has had a
monopoly for nearly 3 years on an advanced manufacturing technology called “FINFET” and
the company has used this manufacturing edge to dominate the PC and server markets and try
to build a presence in tablets and smartphones5
. As GlobalFoundries expands its client base
and becomes less reliant on AMD orders, AMD is losing its ability to enjoy any preferential
treatment with only two pure, foundry-model players remaining.

True, the cancelation of the 20nm node is a example.
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Moreover, AMD’s need for cash also led to fatal strategic missteps. By selling IP assets to
Qualcomm19 in 2009, it allowed its rival to build its mobile graphics capabilities from scratch.
No wonder why it finds itself having difficulty producing quality mobile chips

One of AMD big mistakes.
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MICROSOFT & SONY ILLUSORY WIN: A BITE FROM THE WRONG APPLE
We do not contest that AMD struck a win in the videogame console segment and secured a
much-needed cash influx, strengthening its semi-custom business. However, we contend that
gaming is not the answer to AMD’s woes. The company recently gained marked share from
Nvidia to supply graphics processors to Microsoft’s Xbox and Sony’s PlayStation. As a
result, AMD now supplies all three major console firms (including Nintendo’s Wii U), which
account for almost 25% of its total revenues for 2014 (Bloomberg data).
We admit that AMD definitely devised a better product proposal than Nvidia for their semicustom
APUs because they had solid expertise and genuine commitment13. However, Nvidia
claims it rejected the proposal because of its unattractive profitability. Nvidia’s senior VP,
Tony Tamasi, remarked14 that:
“We didn't want to do the business at the price those guys [Sony] were willing to
pay. […] Having been through the original Xbox and PS3, we understand the
economics of [console development] and the trade-offs.”
Realistically, AMD should only expect razor-thin margins, as console manufacturers, having
sold their products at a loss in the past, will opt for the most cost-effective option given the
weight of chips in the costs of production.

One quarter of its total revenue is not much but its better than nothing.

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