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My test bench with a little Pentium G3258 at stock;


Will try it again later at 4.5GHz or whatever I can get stable in win 7.

Edit:
4.5GHz


Interesting, a 40.63% increase in CPU frequency equaled a 49.16% higher score (ram was also bumped up to 1600MHz though).
Edited by DR4G00N - 8/20/16 at 9:33am
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What do you guys think of the benchmark?

Any additional features you guys would like to see?
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What do you guys think of the benchmark?

Any additional features you guys would like to see?
I think it's a very well put together bench. Though it crashes my nvidia graphics drivers during the run for some reason.

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What do you guys think of the benchmark?

Any additional features you guys would like to see?
I think it's a very well put together bench. Though it crashes my nvidia graphics drivers during the run for some reason.

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It has happened to me, I asked nVIdia to fix their driver. No real response.
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I think it is a cool benchmark program.

It would be nice if it included an OpenCL test (for CPUs not GPUs). This could provide some interesting information... especially when comparing AMD vs. Intel CPU wise. I mean... the whole industry is heading in the OpenCL direction so might as well offer a benchmark alternative in that segment.
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not sure there would be much benefit to using OpenCL. The multithread portion of the program already works pretty efficiently in managing threads. It starts them once (one per core selected) at the beginning and they stay running until the end. The real limitation is memory access. To calculate a prime it has to be compared to all the known primes below the square root of the number being checked. So there's a lot of memory checks going on in the prime portion of Bishop.

edit: or were you suggesting making an additional test?

edit2: Anyone using the Rabios test? Its a pretty good measurement of IPC. Something to note about it, hyperthread cores are even number cores on Intel chips.
Edited by PhillyB - 8/21/16 at 3:30pm
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An OpenCL test, separate from the other two. Meaning having its own tab within the existing benchmarking software.
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I'm not sure what to do with OpenCL to create a new test that already isn't done in the other two tests...hmmmm

As an addition to the previous post, I ran a few runs on my computer of the Rabios test. I thought I would give a good explanation of what's going on with that test and how hyperthreading effects it.

Rabios creates threads which run a small batch of calculations that RagingCain and I are calling one cycle. Then the cycle is repeated as fast as possible and measured every second. The calculation cycle and loop are isolated to the core its running on and has very little memory interaction beyond a tiny array that is reused. So its likely the memory usage never gets beyond the cache. As a result this isolates the core processing from the RAM bandwidth which is fairly slow in comparison.

How does this relate to something meaningful? Well, we are isolating cores and repeating instructions with little memory interaction so this is creating an IPC measurement. This is not written in assembly or machine code, so we cant count the actual instructions. We can count cycles per second though, resulting in the CS in MCS. You can probably guess that the M is millions.

Back to my explanation about the Hyperthreading effect. Hyperthreading attempts to run two threads on one core, this appears as two cores in Windows because it doesn't know the difference. In an ideal world this would double the amount of calculations the cpu can do...but it doesn't. Hyperthreading works by filling in the time when the main thread is doing nothing. So, the more one thread utilizes the thread, the less the second thread can do. The result is that they fight each other for core time and both threads slow down. But, the end result is more calculations because there is very little down time on the core.

This shows up in Rabios because it measures the number of cycles per second per 'core' (read 'thread'). Since Windows is consistent with its numbering of logical cores, even and odd pairs represent a single physical core on the cpu when running hyperthreading. (ie. 1 and 2 are core 1, 3 and 4 are core 2...and so on).
Rabios Screen Shots (Click to show)
one thread per physical core


two threads per physical core via hyperthreading

So, looking at the screen shots, with one thread per physical core...a high per core rate. With hyperthreading a lower per core rate. But notice that the rate is not cut in half. this shows that hyperthreading is better utilizing the core and filling in the empty clock cycles. This also shows in the CPU rate which is all the core rates combined. There is a 32% increase in the overall total, which is about where hyperthreading should be.

Note: CPU is a 6700k running at 4.6ghz and CPUz was not running while test was processing since it saps a few percent of the cpu processing power.

And I thought I would leave this here too: Prime Number score (Click to show)
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