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Will do, will post some pics once I get the stuff together, hoping it works out.
    
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post #13 of 18
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Got the board last week, have to work tonight, but have the next 3 or so days off to spend putting all this together.

Examining the board, looks like its refurb, some prints, scuffs, dirt on parts, not spotless clean, but can't see anything actually wrong with it, so keeping fingers crossed.

It did come with all accessories which is a first for me, every other Refurb I've had came with minimal if not no accessories, MSI and EVGA.














One thing that had me impressed, is the number of 4 pin PWM fan headers on this board, its insane, never had a board with, 4 or 5, 4 pin headers before, let alone 7 headers (2x CPU, 4x case, and 1x 3 pin) so connecting dual CPU fans on the heatsink won't be an issue this time around, since there's 2 for the CPU, and 3 or 4 for extra. Some sort of Asst Fan 3 pin header near the 8 pin Aux power, from what I saw, not sure what that's for? If its just a basic 3 pin header, or used for some special purpose?

I miss the LED readout from the Stinger, but some of these other benefits of this board outweigh those cons.
    
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oh yeah the fan headers are great on those board, mainly because they are aimed at longevity so controlling cooling is a big part of it.
there are led's around the board, which light up when the bios checks each component, if something is up at boot, a steady red led on the mainboard area will light up even if you don't get a display.

have fun with it, its a nice board. thumb.gif
    
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post #15 of 18
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Been a while, had some money problems, but now that i quit my job, to get some medical/dental stuff taken care of and recover/heal from in the coming months, cashed in my vacation hours from work, transferred my 401K from that job, to an IRA at one of my banks, and live off some of that for a few months (have to wait until end of next year before I can cash out on my stock value with the company), but finally got the last of my parts tonight.

Hopefully have it all by middle of next week, and built by the weekend.

I skimped a bit on the parts, opted for a 250GB SSD instead of 512GB, going to hold off on bumping RAM to 24GB (add another 16 to the 8 I have), also settled on the Corsair H80i GT AIO, and opted for an EVGA 220-G2-0750-XR PSU (750W Gold rated, modular, etc), initially wasn't going to need that much power, but apparently 1 SSD, 2x HDD, i5 4690K (with a target OC of around 4.0 to 4.2), 4 DDR3 DIMM's, 5 USB 2.0 Devices, at least 2 USB 3.0 devices, gaming Keyboard and mouse, H80, and 2x 140mm fans (see how my Akasa Viper R 140mm's work on it, 120mm mounting, bit better "Coverage" area over Rad surface, whether that will work or not?), 200mm stock case fan.

Initially GTX 970 or 980 was what I was looking at, but I Jumped on a Recertified EVGA 980 Ti Superclock tonight, so, that bumped up my power needs, and decided on a 750W modular to be on safe side and have wiggle room for additional add in cards, or other drives, devices and what not added over the years.

Probably be adding another SSD and more RAM before end of the year anyways.


Will post pics once its all together.
    
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Spent 7 hours (2 hours of stop and record some video while building of my obstacles and problems), so roughly 5 hours on this, and got it all completed, booted up properly on first boot, then spent another couple hours narrowing down why my GPU was not sending a signal out over HDMI to TV set... apparently Asus in their infinite wisdom, won't let a GPU send a signal to display if not inserted in the primary PCIe x16 slot, installed in the 2nd slot, which is also a x16 slot (when in SLI or CrossfireX, both are only x8 x8, regardless of running in 2.0 or 3.0 spec, but single card use, either one is x16), however, when installed in 2nd slot (had it over 2 slots closer to side panel for air intake (EVGA GTX 980 Ti Superclocked+ ACX 2.0+), and away from H80i GT's tubing. But once installed in primary slot it was recognized and would not default to iGPU on the i5 4690K.

So have that pinned down.

My other issues were trying to pin point why the rear fan, and older Arctic Cooling 120mm PWM suspended frame exhaust fan, was barely spinning was acting like it wanted to, but couldn't. Till I found disabling the Q Controls for the Fan header for that fan, allowed it to run at full RPM/voltage and keeps it running, apparently the max low end RPM of 600 wasn't enough voltage to keep it running, so it would stop and every so often try to turn but couldn't.

Left the 2 front fans set on Silent profile, so as to not add much noise obviously, but at full RPM, you can hear them, just not THAT loud, but enough to be noticed.

Swapped out the stock Thermaltake 200mm and installed my pair of Akasa Viper R 140mm's in the front. Initially I planned on using on the H80, however, found that the fans actually are a tad wider than 140mm, moving the fan bracket rails on the case to the 140mm width, they still couldn't fit between the rails, add to that, due to 120mm fan holes on frames, you no longer were able to secure them into rails because they're spread to 140mm width... oops, minor oversight when I was planning this, LOL. Good thing I didn't bank on that with a 240mm AIO kit too, as the fans would be touching with 140mm widths side by side, with no way to screw into rad with 120mm holes, nor, 280mm kit, with no 120mm holes, LOL

Stock Tt 200mm mounts via the same diameter screws used for AIO liquid cooling kits, just the last 1/8th inch or so of the screw is threaded, but same length screws. To use any other size fans, you can use 120 or 140mm width, but the large slots to place fan and move up and down where you want, the slots are too wide for standard fan screws to fasten, so you HAVE to use a screw and nut type fastening system, or rig some zip ties or something to fasten it. Luckily I still had the Akasa's little yellow silicone/rubber nipple like fasteners, which I threaded through the holes, and secured the fans to the case with that.





Had to install the H80i GT on the side, placing in rear spot, with the in/out ideally at the bottom, would of put too much stress on the connections, and worried about leaking.

could of inverted it, but Corsair and elsewhere don't recommend that due to air collecting at top, and you could clearly hear the air in the radiator when orienting it, working on it, sounded like a LOT more air in there, than on my older H60 kit.

Nice thick tubing, braided cloth covering, but due to the thicker tubing it was harder to bend and worry about leaking.

I couldn't install in front with out the same worries, I could have installed on top, over the board, but I wanted to leave that open, for the window panel, so best option was place where it is now, side panel, most of it is past the board, so that if it DID leak, only parts that would get dripped on is that very far corner of the Mobo, rather than the GPU, CPU, chipset, PSU, etc.

Only the cables and corner of the mobo would get damaged.

While working on it later, with the GPU issue, idle operating temps while dinking around in bios, stayed at a steady 27-30C max, chipset/mobo never went above 28C, usually hovered between 26 and 28, and CPU was occasionally hitting 30C, usually around 28 or 29.

Still have to install Windows and the Corsair Link software, but that will finish sometime this week when I feel like it, at least now I know the system boots and runs just fine.

Some pics while working on it, and after it was done.

Cable job could be better, but its fine for me for now, main reason I wanted this type of case, with separate compartments was so I didn't have to worry too much about cable neatness, just the top part, tuck the rest underneath and be done with it.

Only using 2x PCIe cables, 24 pin ATX, 4+4 pin Aux, and a single 3x SATA cable, so its minimal cables from PSU, aside from fan, front panel and Corsair link.


Due to where the Corsair Link cable is located, flush against the VRM heatsinks, I had to take the dremel after it, take a cutting disc and gently grind away at the underside of the plugs plastic/rubber coating, to bevel it a bit and be flush with the heatsink, there's JUST a bit of wiggle and play to the plug now, so its not exactly against or touching the heatsink, plug it in, and fasten down the blocks bolts on that side, so there was SOME custom work done on the rig so far, LOL

Used stock Corsair TIM for now, will reapply fresh stuff later if needed, or when I start to OC it, have a bit of a collection, AS Ceramique 2, Shin Etsu something or other (forget the kind, but was the better stuff), IC Diamond (though its a few years old now, so not sure if its gone bad or not), and Prolimatech PK-1.
    
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Noticed you're not using the top slot for your GPU, that will be limited to 8x with that board, from memory as I was going to try the same thing.
Nice looking build though
    
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Its in top slot now, that pic was from when I initially had it all finished, later on I could not get the board to boot to bios screen while display plugged into the 980 Ti.

It would constantly default to the Intel Graphics on the CPU.

Once I switched it to the primary slot, it still wouldn't display from either HDMI on GPU or iGPU.

I had to reset the bios via jumper, and then boot again, make changes in bios for case fans, and then save/reboot swap the HDMI, still no detection, one more reset switch reboot, a Bios load up on 980 Ti.

It had actually initially loaded to Bios on 980 Ti prior to this, just after the CMOS reset, but it was initial configuration screen (hit F1 to enter) etc.

I went in, made some changes, and for whatever reason after saving and rebooting there was no signal detection on display for either HDMI, another reset switch reboot seemed to fix it.

I had planned on the GPU for now being closer to side panel, but later on, when adding in another expansion card, which most likely would be something needing more than x1 bandwidth (SATA/SAS controller card, SSD or something like that), I'd switch the GPU to primary, cover the x1, and have 2 x16's to use.

That and the GPU was flush over and against all the headers on edge of board, wasn't too fond of that, so moved it to primary, and just works better now, I had concerns of the coolers tubes being flush against the GPU, but they just clear it now, so not a big issue.
    
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