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NVIDIA's driver team is at it again. The company drew outrage from the PC enthusiast community, for developing drivers that prevent GPU overclocking on its GeForce GTX 900M series notebook GPUs, in February 2015, with the introduction of its GeForce 347.29 WHQL drivers, blaming it on a "bug" that allowed overclocking on previous drivers. When called-out and under pressure from the community, it re-enabled overclocking on these chips, with the following GeForce 347.88 drivers, with an equally lame quasi-apology.

Hoping that nobody would notice, the company seems to have reinstated the overclocking block, or "clock-block" as the community is calling it; with its R350 and R352 drivers, such as the GeForce 352.86. Enthusiasts in notebook-centric communities such as NotebookReview, discovered that the latest GeForce drivers prevent overclocking if it reads a "lock-bit" in the video BIOS. Below are the two excuses the company exhausted by means of mutual-contradiction.
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A hotfix has been released.
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This is a GeForce Hot Fix driver, version 353.00 that addresses the following issues:

· Fixes a regression that prevented overclocking the GPU on some GeForce Notebooks

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I think mild overclocking is ok, expecially most laptop with >970m graphic card generally have good thermal disipation (especially for laptop that is designed for 980m but installed with 970m)
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I'll wait and see if Nvidia delivers on reversing their "bug fix."

I don't get why they continue to do this song and dance. Either youo stand by your official sellers who don't want to deal with customers complaining about failed overclocks or stand by your customers who buy your product in the first place.

Sure you could try to satisfy both parties. For example you could make more durable components so the barrier to failing an overclock is higher. Something like that would help both. Doing this song and dance though just annoys everyone.
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I'm quite sure overclocking that comes back will be less than before. What is there to overclock when the voltage is locked anyways.
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Nvidia are just full of it atm. Only donkeys fall to same pit twice, now this is happening again for the second time. So I guess nvidia ARE donkeys.

/rant

ps : still upset the way they gimped kepler users.
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I'm quite sure overclocking that comes back will be less than before. What is there to overclock when the voltage is locked anyways.

Mobile chips typically have quite a bit of headroom, I know my 870m does...

This is just so many levels of dumb.
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I'm quite sure overclocking that comes back will be less than before. What is there to overclock when the voltage is locked anyways.

You can quite easily flash your laptop to allow for more voltage adjustments., just like anyone here with their desktop GPU's.

Not to mention the headroom already available without adjustments.


Well nV took too long to make the change back to allow overclocking, ill support AMD from here on out.
    
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Here we go. I'm waiting for the ignorants to come in this thread with the usual "why would you oc a laptop/laptops can't oc/they will enter a nuclear reaction and melt your table" I've been using the latest driver that allows overclocking on my laptop, my GTX850M can easily run at the max clocks afterburner allows without any voltage changes (no it doesn't overheat or fail, I actually got a good laptop with good cooling, not the craptops you all use to generalize gaming laptops). I hate nvidia for pulling this on us, it was nice that they listened in the first place and allowed back overclocking but removing it again is just stupid. I won't update to any driver that doesn't allow overclocking. nvidia better get their heads straight, or it will start to cost them.
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Overclocking even a laptop GPU can be fun. I used to OC the GPU in my old laptop. It didn't yield much of a result and it wasn't a comfortable experience due to the laptop being terrible but it was within my right to do it as I paid for the product, thus it's mine to do with as I wish and it's entirely in nVidia's favour if people kill their laptops. But nVidia can do no wrong so I must be a fool to question them.
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Here we go. I'm waiting for the ignorants to come in this thread with the usual "why would you oc a laptop/laptops can't oc/they will enter a nuclear reaction and melt your table" I've been using the latest driver that allows overclocking on my laptop, my GTX850M can easily run at the max clocks afterburner allows without any voltage changes (no it doesn't overheat or fail, I actually got a good laptop with good cooling, not the craptops you all use to generalize gaming laptops). I hate nvidia for pulling this on us, it was nice that they listened in the first place and allowed back overclocking but removing it again is just stupid. I won't update to any driver that doesn't allow overclocking. nvidia better get their heads straight, or it will start to cost them.

While i've overclocked laptops (both cpus and gpus) I will never tell a non-techie how to do it, in fact my stock response is "you can't and shouldn't"

there are two reasons,
1) you never know what laptop they have, and even if you do, the chances you know the overclocking potential of that laptop is almost non-existent
2) unlike with pcs and thier robust cooling solutions its a LOT easier to break things on a laptop, so rather then walk a n00b who's never overclocked before through the process (which you know he'll probably not follow) it's easier just to tell them "no you can't"

I suspect other people take this same cautious stance with instructing people on overclocking laptops, which has lead to a widely accepted "wives tale" that you can't overclock a laptop.
 
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