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Originally Posted by TheReciever View Post

You can quite easily flash your laptop to allow for more voltage adjustments., just like anyone here with their desktop GPU's.

Not to mention the headroom already available without adjustments.


Well nV took too long to make the change back to allow overclocking, ill support AMD from here on out.

Problem is finding AMD mobile GPU's worth buying frown.gif All I ever see is nvidia in laptops.
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Problem is finding AMD mobile GPU's worth buying frown.gif All I ever see is nvidia in laptops.

I actually got one with 8750m (well, 7750m then?) and while it's not top of the class it can actually play some games quite nicely. Haven't seen any 2xxM around tho.
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The 555M was a rip off card to begin with. For reference I was able to overclock my old 540m to 555m levels with 0 voltage bumps and thats with 96 cores that you working with. Not exactly much. Your referencing Fermi when whats being debated here is Maxwell, if its anything like the last time all other architectures were unaffected.

Get something like maxwell level anything and you can almost shoot for the stars as far as the potential you have.
It was a pretty strong card but a huge powerhog. Anyways if the chips have a lot of headroom then that just points to they could have been saving power by cutting back on the voltage. It points to poor binning which is strange considering mobile is where you want the best pieces of silicon as in the lowest leakage. Parts that are horrible OC-ers most of the time but are better at low power.

I haven't OC-ed laptops in a while.

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I actually got one with 8750m (well, 7750m then?) and while it's not top of the class it can actually play some games quite nicely. Haven't seen any 2xxM around tho.
AMD needs to release something that isn't a rebrand if they want a piece of the mobile dgpu market. Carrizo is going to be great efficiency but if they pair it with a GCN 1.0 chip it's gonna stink.
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Still, GPU's aren't the only component in a laptop. Lots of temperature sensitive equipment is housed in a very close proximity, often sharing heatsinks. The problem is that NV isn't selling you a laptop, they're selling a manufacturer a GPU. That manufacturer may choose to sell a sleek and slim product, for example, which could mean sacrificing cooling and performance. You could get it, overclock your GPU, and end up cooking your GPU or even other components. You might be competent enough to overclock without doing that, but there may be many other people who do damage their hardware by overclocking. Those people will likely try getting their mistakes covered under warranty. Now what happens if the manufacturer finds out certain components were overheating, but they can't prove you did it yourself by overclocking? Does NV pay for a new GPU or does the manufacturer?
What if the RAM over heated because of the GPU's increased thermal output? Who pays for that?

It's not a black and white issue. Laptops aren't PC's.

ROFL. So, what's the difference between people botching their desktops with an OC? Oh wait, that's right a desktop is a PC. So, in your world Laptops are Macs too? Or maybe they're two different kinds of "aren't PCs"? rolleyes.gif

I'm sorry mods but this is the kind of crap that should be deleted. I mean what's the difference between this and Intel fanboys trolling the AMD sections saying OCing a FX8xxx/9xxx shouldn't be allowed because you don't have the cooling for it and AMD CPUs make a computer not a PC? I guess we should just delete the laptop section of OVERCLOCK.NET because obviously "you can't overclock a laptop because it isn't a PC".
     
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ROFL. So, what's the difference between people botching their desktops with an OC? Oh wait, that's right a desktop is a PC. So, in your world Laptops are Macs too? Or maybe they're two different kinds of "aren't PCs"? rolleyes.gif

I'm sorry mods but this is the kind of crap that should be deleted. I mean what's the difference between this and Intel fanboys trolling the AMD sections saying OCing a FX8xxx/9xxx shouldn't be allowed because you don't have the cooling for it and AMD CPUs make a computer not a PC? I guess we should just delete the laptop section of OVERCLOCK.NET because obviously "you can't overclock a laptop because it isn't a PC".

If you kill your GPU on a desktop then you can replace it.

If you kill your GPU on a laptop you are looking at replacing the whole motherboard at least unless you are satisfied with running with Intel HD graphics.
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If you kill your GPU on a desktop then you can replace it.

If you kill your GPU on a laptop you are looking at replacing the whole motherboard at least unless you are satisfied with running with Intel HD graphics.

His argument:
1) If you OC you'll damage a part
2) If you damage a part someone will have to pay for to be replaced
3) Because the company can't determine who's responsible and who should pay you shouldn't OC

I then applied that same argument to desktop parts.

You brought up a different argument.
     
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Still, GPU's aren't the only component in a laptop. Lots of temperature sensitive equipment is housed in a very close proximity, often sharing heatsinks. The problem is that NV isn't selling you a laptop, they're selling a manufacturer a GPU. That manufacturer may choose to sell a sleek and slim product, for example, which could mean sacrificing cooling and performance. You could get it, overclock your GPU, and end up cooking your GPU or even other components. You might be competent enough to overclock without doing that, but there may be many other people who do damage their hardware by overclocking. Those people will likely try getting their mistakes covered under warranty. Now what happens if the manufacturer finds out certain components were overheating, but they can't prove you did it yourself by overclocking? Does NV pay for a new GPU or does the manufacturer?
What if the RAM over heated because of the GPU's increased thermal output? Who pays for that?

It's not a black and white issue. Laptops aren't PC's.

I'd be super pissed if I couldn't OC my laptop. I gained ridiculous performance boost out of OC'ing the cpu and the gpus. No thanks. I know what I'm doing and I know the risks. I don't need someone protecting me from myself.
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Another OCN thread where everyone acts like all users are like OCN users (generally power users), and that Nvidia is producing drivers with them in mind. Instead of the reality that the drivers are produced with the majority in mind, those being entirely unqualified to even attempt an overclock on anything; God forbid they do a notebook. We are the minority guys, we need to keep that in mind when looking at business decisions like this.

I do understand the small number of people that can legitimately be upset about this. But their general release drivers should lock out OC on Notebooks, for several reasons already mentioned on OCN. I personally would then release a second driver for the enthusiast to use. An "unlocked" driver set that gives the option to those who may want to OCN and play around with their system a little more.

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ROFL. So, what's the difference between people botching their desktops with an OC? Oh wait, that's right a desktop is a PC. So, in your world Laptops are Macs too? Or maybe they're two different kinds of "aren't PCs"? rolleyes.gif

This statement tells me you don't know what in the hell you are talking about, and you are the PERFECT example as to why Notebooks shouldn't be OC'ed by anyone but someone who knows what they are doing. You are the type of person that thinks a PC is a PC, or scoff at the reality that there are extreme differences between laptop and desktop.

The difference between a PC and Notebook OC? Proximity of components, actual robustness of those components, air flow, etc. From a physical standpoint, they couldn't be more different - and that is extremely important. Especially when you are talking about the topic of Overclocking.
    
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ROFL. So, what's the difference between people botching their desktops with an OC? Oh wait, that's right a desktop is a PC. So, in your world Laptops are Macs too? Or maybe they're two different kinds of "aren't PCs"? rolleyes.gif

I'm sorry mods but this is the kind of crap that should be deleted. I mean what's the difference between this and Intel fanboys trolling the AMD sections saying OCing a FX8xxx/9xxx shouldn't be allowed because you don't have the cooling for it and AMD CPUs make a computer not a PC? I guess we should just delete the laptop section of OVERCLOCK.NET because obviously "you can't overclock a laptop because it isn't a PC".

Spot on. This forum has just turned into a massive circlejerk, all I see everytime I come here is just a bunch of ignorant people spreading ignorance. Acting elitist like the pcmasterrace circlejerk just makes you look bad. Apparently ocing and frying desktop parts is okay, but god forbid touching a laptop, a 1mhz increase will instantly result in your laptop catching fire, your house burning down and the manufacturer will have to pay for that /s. What a joke. Overclock.net is barely about actual overclocking anymore. Only GTX 980s overclocks are allowed, because the rest just isn't worth the heat and power consumption /s
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i7 6700k @4.7 1.44v Asus Z170 MAXIMUS VIII IMPACT  GTX 1070 G1 Gaming Corsair Vengeance LPX DDR4 3200Mhz  
Hard DriveHard DriveCoolingOS
Seagate Baracuda 7200.12 1tb Samsung EVO 250 GB Corsair H100i [With Dual SP120 fans] Windows 10 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
LG 24mg77 144hz TVS E-GOLD keyboard Cherry Mx Blue Corsair AX860 860Watts Corsair Obsidian 250D 
MouseAudio
Logitech G302 Daedalus Prime  ATH-M50xDG 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsGraphics
Intel Core i7 Extreme 2920XM/Intel Core i7 2860QM P180HMx AMD Radeon HD 6990M AMD Radeon HD 6990M 
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Samsung  Samsung  Samsung  Seagate 750GB 7200RPM 
Optical DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Blu-Ray reader  Sager Cooling + CM SF-19 USB 3.0 Windows 7 Ultimate X64 18.4 1920x1080 Glossy 16:9 Plastic covered  
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Gigabyte wirless 300W+8 cells battery SagerNP8180 Gigabyte wireless 
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