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temps around 62
id go raise another 0.05 vcore

 

Ok cool. I'll be here. :) I have no plans to be anywhere else. lol

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Ok cool. I'll be here. smile.gif I have no plans to be anywhere else. lol
thanks . Started another occt test with 1.165 this time

Btw how prime test work?does it stop when it detects an error like occt?
does it give log error after it fails?

I downloaded it but not sure how it works

Update:got bsod
retsarted to bios raised another 0.050 to 1.170
anothet test running now


Update 3: 1.180 4.1ghz
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thanks . Started another occt test with 1.165 this time

Btw how prime test work?does it stop when it detects an error like occt?
does it give log error after it fails?

I downloaded it but not sure how it works

 

It's a program that was designed to discover new prime numbers, and eventually back in those days overclockers discovered that it's also extremely good for testing a system's stability when the CPU is overclocked. Unfortunately, they never released a version that is specifically just for us overclockers. So, when an error occurs in the software only (more on that in a sec), what you will see is "Worker stopped" in the title bar of one of the "Worker" windows. Or, more than one might stop. It will also say that an error has occurred, and yeah, there's a log file for each test that you run. Except, it's text only and there's no graph or anything.

 

The thing with Prime95 though is, it's simple. There's no graph to try and interpret or understand after each test; you just run it. If your system is stable, then you'll have the ability to run Prime95 for like 24 hours with none of the Workers stopping, no system lock-ups, no BSODs, no problems, etc. With OCCT, it looks like it is trying to make you feel that you have to know lots of different things just to use the silly thing. lol :) Plus, Prime95 only takes up 2.43 MB on my system before I start any test and it opens instantly (like, as instantly as Notepad or Calculator or Task Manager, etc.). OCCT on the other hand consumes about 35 MB and it takes 5 seconds to open - but before it finishes opening, it asks me if I want to donate. Sigh. Good grief.

 

I realize that OCCT has a ton of stuff that Prime95 doesn't have, but I'm looking at OCCT right now and I'm sorry, but it's not appealing to me. lol

 

 

Edit: I see your update. I'll type up a response soon. :)

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It's a program that was designed to discover new prime numbers, and eventually back in those days overclockers discovered that it's also extremely good for testing a system's stability when the CPU is overclocked. Unfortunately, they never released a version that is specifically just for us overclockers. So, when an error occurs in the software only (more on that in a sec), what you will see is "Worker stopped" in the title bar of one of the "Worker" windows. Or, more than one might stop. It will also say that an error has occurred, and yeah, there's a log file for each test that you run. Except, it's text only and there's no graph or anything.

The thing with Prime95 though is, it's simple. There's no graph to try and interpret or understand after each test; you just run it. If your system is stable, then you'll have the ability to run Prime95 for like 24 hours with none of the Workers stopping, no system lock-ups, no BSODs, no problems, etc. With OCCT, it looks like it is trying to make you feel that you have to know lots of different things just to use the silly thing. lol smile.gif Plus, Prime95 only takes up 2.43 MB on my system before I start any test and it opens instantly (like, as instantly as Notepad or Calculator or Task Manager, etc.). OCCT on the other hand consumes about 35 MB and it takes 5 seconds to open - but before it finishes opening, it asks me if I want to donate. Sigh. Good grief.

I realize that OCCT has a ton of stuff that Prime95 doesn't have, but I'm looking at OCCT right now and I'm sorry, but it's not appealing to me. lol


Edit: I see your update. I'll type up a response soon. smile.gif

I moved to prime tesst because i realised that no1 can reach that stress power on normal use and even hardcore gaming

So it might be better to go prime and avoid occt

But lets say prime runs perfect for 1hour
can i move on to higher settings?
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I moved to prime tesst because i realised that no1 can reach that stress power on normal use and even hardcore gaming

So it might be better to go prime and avoid occt

But lets say prime runs perfect for 1hour
can i move on to higher settings?

 

I think that OCCT's "OCCT" test might be the same as Prime95. I mean, Small, Medium Large Data Sets? Small FFTs, Blend, and Large FFTs? I dunno. Maybe.

 

Anyway, 1 hour just means you are getting through the first ~3 or 4 FFTs out of all 82. These programs don't put a constant unchanging load on the CPU the entire time that it's running. Having said that though, this overclock is pretty small so it's not a big deal. :) As long as you don't use an incomplete test like that as the final test when you feel that you're done tweaking.

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I think that OCCT's "OCCT" test might be the same as Prime95. I mean, Small, Medium Large Data Sets? Small FFTs, Blend, and Large FFTs? I dunno. Maybe.

Anyway, 1 hour just means you are getting through the first ~3 or 4 FFTs out of all 82. These programs don't put a constant unchanging load on the CPU the entire time that it's running. Having said that though, this overclock is pretty small so it's not a big deal. smile.gif As long as you don't use an incomplete test like that as the final test when you feel that you're done tweaking.

Well prime teat so far runs good 5.1ghz 1.180v
should i stop and try start from higher clock like 4.5ghz
and when it failed just raise more vcore until i find the sweet spot?

Today and tomrrow are free days for me so i want to finish with it b4 i go back to work cause testing takes alot of time
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Well prime teat so far runs good 5.1ghz 1.180v
should i stop and try start from higher clock like 4.5ghz
and when it failed just raise more vcore until i find the sweet spot?

Today and tomrrow are free days for me so i want to finish with it b4 i go back to work cause testing takes alot of time

 

But you don't have to sit at the computer the entire time. If I had a full-time job, then here's how I'd do it:

 

I'd start the test before going to bed on a work night (well, I'd restart first so that everything is fresh and I'd make sure to minimize the amount of things running in the background too). Then in the morning, I'd check it about 2-3 times while getting ready for work. If it's still going when I'm ready to leave the house, then I'll wait until I get home. If it's still going when I get home, then I'll go do whatever I feel like doing, like watch TV or go out with a friend. By the time bedtime rolls around, 24 hours will have passed! :) If the computer is still running Prime95 by that point with no failed Workers or with no lock-up or BSOD, then guess what! :) hehe That's a slick way to do it. For this reason, I kind of envy people who have full-time jobs or go to school full-time. They can easily be away from their computer for 18+ hours at a time. They could even be away from their computer for 24 hours straight if they decide to stay away from the computer when they come home from work or school. Me? I live at my computer. Sigh. Without my computer, I'm bored.

 

Anyway, yeah you can go straight to 4.5 GHz from 4.1 if you want. It's up to you. In the most basic sense, it's just a game of increasing the multiplier and the voltage - especially at these clocks.

 

By the way, edit your post: you typed "5.1 GHz" instead of "4.1". In my experience on OCN, I know that someone will see that and freak out even though it's obvious that you meant 4.1.


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But you don't have to sit at the computer the entire time. If I had a full-time job, then here's how I'd do it:

I'd start the test before going to bed on a work night (well, I'd restart first so that everything is fresh and I'd make sure to minimize the amount of things running in the background too). Then in the morning, I'd check it about 2-3 times while getting ready for work. If it's still going when I'm ready to leave the house, then I'll wait until I get home. If it's still going when I get home, then I'll go do whatever I feel like doing, like watch TV or go out with a friend. By the time bedtime rolls around, 24 hours will have passed! smile.gif If the computer is still running Prime95 by that point with no failed Workers or with no lock-up or BSOD, then guess what! smile.gif hehe That's a slick way to do it. For this reason, I kind of envy people who have full-time jobs or go to school full-time. They can easily be away from their computer for 18+ hours at a time. They could even be away from their computer for 24 hours straight if they decide to stay away from the computer when they come home from work or school. Me? I live at my computer. Sigh. Without my computer, I'm bored.

Anyway, yeah you can go straight to 4.5 GHz from 4.1 if you want. It's up to you. In the most basic sense, it's just a game of increasing the multiplier and the voltage - especially at these clocks.

By the way, edit your post: you typed "5.1 GHz" instead of "4.1". In my experience on OCN, I know that someone will see that and freak out even though it's obvious that you meant 4.1.

Lol yea i ment 4.1

Anyway so far its not that easy i think i got bad results
4.2ghz failed with 1.195
now i try 4.2ghz 1.200v

If thats work ill go up to 4.3 and so on

Also i had some temp spikes to 71 is that ok?
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Lol yea i ment 4.1

Anyway so far its not that easy i think i got bad results
4.2ghz failed with 1.195
now i try 4.2ghz 1.200v

If thats work ill go up to 4.3 and so on

Also i had some temp spikes to 71 is that ok?

 

Oh definitely. Your temps are good. They're a little on the high side for this clock and voltage, but still quite safe.

 

What voltage are you seeing in CPU-Z while running Prime95?

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Oh definitely. Your temps are good. They're a little on the high side for this clock and voltage, but still quite safe.

What voltage are you seeing in CPU-Z while running Prime95?
another update
4.3ghz with 1.245v
so far runs good
cpuz core voltages show:1.188
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-4790k@ 4.7 GHz Asus Maximus VII HERO GTX 980 Ti G1 Gaming  16 GB Kingston HyperX 2400 HZ 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850EVO 1TB SSD Asus CD/DVD reader/writer Noctua NH-D15+ Noctua NH-A14 FLX x3 Windows 10 Pro X64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
BenQ Steelseries APEX M800 Coolermaster V Series 1000W Fractal Design Define R5 
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Zowie EC2-A Zowie G-SR Sennheiser GAME ONE - White ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i7-4790k@ 4.7 GHz Asus Maximus VII HERO GTX 980 Ti G1 Gaming  16 GB Kingston HyperX 2400 HZ 
Hard DriveOptical DriveCoolingOS
Samsung 850EVO 1TB SSD Asus CD/DVD reader/writer Noctua NH-D15+ Noctua NH-A14 FLX x3 Windows 10 Pro X64 
MonitorKeyboardPowerCase
BenQ Steelseries APEX M800 Coolermaster V Series 1000W Fractal Design Define R5 
MouseMouse PadAudioAudio
Zowie EC2-A Zowie G-SR Sennheiser GAME ONE - White ASUS Xonar DX 7.1 
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