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Good advice fellow members
I would personally go for 290x I am not biased too as I had a 780 to, but nvidia let me down
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I'm actually in the same pickle right now. Was going to upgrade my graphics card sometime within about a month from now and can't decide which one. :/ I was thinking of waiting till the new cards are all out, but I've heard that a lot of the AMD cards are just re-brands except the top ends (rumors, who knows really), so that doesn't really apply to me... Unless the GTX 960TI actually exists and is coming out relatively soon, in which case I would love that. So the recommendation is the R9 290/290X? Is there a possibility of Direct X 12 support for those cards?
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Originally Posted by Saiyamoto View Post

I'm actually in the same pickle right now. Was going to upgrade my graphics card sometime within about a month from now and can't decide which one. :/ I was thinking of waiting till the new cards are all out, but I've heard that a lot of the AMD cards are just re-brands except the top ends (rumors, who knows really), so that doesn't really apply to me... Unless the GTX 960TI actually exists and is coming out relatively soon, in which case I would love that. So the recommendation is the R9 290/290X? Is there a possibility of Direct X 12 support for those cards?
forget about a 960ti it wont touch a 290x,and AMD GCN has 100% directx12 support.the 290x would be like 4x 460
post #14 of 39
I tend to lean towards AMD, but you really can't go wrong with either card. I do think the 290X is a little more viable long term, because it has 4 GB of usable RAM and the 970 doesn't.

DX 12 will be supported on either card. As for any problems you had with a 280X, that shouldn't have anything to do with a 290 or 290X. They're completely different cards. A 280X is a rebranded HD 7970 GHz Edition from the previous generation. AMD just pushes their old high-end GPU's downmarket when they come out with something better, as do Nvidia to a lesser extent.
     
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forget about a 960ti it wont touch a 290x,and AMD GCN has 100% directx12 support.the 290x would be like 4x 460

Sounds like a 290X is is then! Is the X worth the extra $$ over the regular 290? I'm not too worried about my i5 bottlenecking me right now, the most intense game I play is a heavily modded Skyrim, with Starcraft II coming next in line lol (although that one is probably more CPU intensive). I do plan on upgrading sometime after Broadwell/Skylake though. Right now I just play on one of the monitors in my Sig Rig, I'm hoping to get a third soon though, at that point I'll probably have a better PSU and do crossfire.

Oh it might be worth mentioning I plan on having this system under water in the not too distant future.
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post #16 of 39
You might want to consider the 290/water setup thats on the marketplace now for 410.00.
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Originally Posted by Saiyamoto View Post

Sounds like a 290X is is then! Is the X worth the extra $$ over the regular 290? I'm not too worried about my i5 bottlenecking me right now, the most intense game I play is a heavily modded Skyrim, with Starcraft II coming next in line lol (although that one is probably more CPU intensive). I do plan on upgrading sometime after Broadwell/Skylake though. Right now I just play on one of the monitors in my Sig Rig, I'm hoping to get a third soon though, at that point I'll probably have a better PSU and do crossfire.

Oh it might be worth mentioning I plan on having this system under water in the not too distant future.
just a 3 or 5% difference in performance, the best cards in cooling, are MSI Lightning, Powercolor PCS+, Sapphire TRI X ,Sapphire Vapor X,CLUB3D royalace

with a 850w psu you can do crossfire and overclock the cpu

some cards form AMD would have a free dirt rally game per card

PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Video Card: PowerColor Radeon R9 290 4GB PCS+ Video Card (2-Way CrossFire) ($229.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: Rosewill HIVE 1000W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($102.99 @ Newegg)
Total: $562.97
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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or a total of 540 with this psu

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Edited by PontiacGTX - 5/23/15 at 12:20pm
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My R9 290 outperforms my roomate's 970 strix. Both overclocked. We are on-par with each other (depends on the game really as some run better on one brand over the other) but at 1440p or 4k I win easily. Mine is a reference board as well. The difference between the 290 and 290x is so minimal that I would recommend getting a 290 or whatever you can get the best deal on. My other friend has a 290x and on synthetic benchmarks he scores slightly higher clock-for-clock (they OC about the same) in games there hasn't been a whole lot of any difference. My 290 OC's ~25mhz higher than his 290x but that's just silicon lottery.

If quiet and low heat are a big thing to you, go 970. If you are only gaming at 1080p without any desire to go higher, go 970.

If you game 1440p+ then the 290 is the ticket. DX12 support should be a bit more solid on them as well since AMD had a big hand in it w/ the whole Mantle business. That said, you better have good cooling! It's a much better bang for the buck card but it does come w/ the caveat of using ~50% more power (and thus, 50% more heat) compared to the 970.

Artifacts are usually caused by cards overheating or being pushed too hard with an OC. Artifacting isn't normal and if it's happening at stock clocks you have a bunk card. NONE should have this! In my experience I tend to have it more when the RAM is having issues on the card VS the core (as in, I am overclocking and it starts when I push the RAM too hard vs the core. The core usually causes blue screens and driver crashes ha).

That's my 2cp. Either card is a powerhouse.
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Originally Posted by Saiyamoto View Post

Sounds like a 290X is is then! Is the X worth the extra $$ over the regular 290? I'm not too worried about my i5 bottlenecking me right now, the most intense game I play is a heavily modded Skyrim, with Starcraft II coming next in line lol (although that one is probably more CPU intensive). I do plan on upgrading sometime after Broadwell/Skylake though. Right now I just play on one of the monitors in my Sig Rig, I'm hoping to get a third soon though, at that point I'll probably have a better PSU and do crossfire.

Oh it might be worth mentioning I plan on having this system under water in the not too distant future.

I just saw the water comment. In that case, 290 all day err day as the heat/power/noise thing becomes a non-factor. Overclocked to 1200 core I can't get my GPU to hit over 50c EVER no matter how intense of a bench I throw at it. This all with my ap-12's undervolted to 5v on the radiators.
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@ghabhaducha
: Ok so i have to ask since i noticed that you own a R9 290X card yourself, Does it act up sometimes or do you notice artifacts or glitches during high loads, I'am asking because i'am thinking about the same thing you wrote about the 970 doesn't have a lot of good reputation regarding its memory and clock speeds being advertised wrong, but i don't know anything about the R9 290X either !


Also what edition of the card do you own, or more importantly what edition is most reputable ?

Also would a 650W PSU be enough for the R9 290X ?


Thanks everyone for your advice, I'm leaning toward the R9 290X but I'm still undecided because of it might have artifacts or stability issues just like its sibling the R9 280X also my 650W might not be able to run it at full load ?


I actually bought both of my 290x's (actually they are unlockable 290's) used from forum sales here and on Hardforum last year sometime. They came with reference coolers (I believe that both of my 290s were of the XFX variety with Hynix memory), and I put on EK waterblocks immediately after purchasing them. From that point until now, I've never had ANY glitches OR artifacts under high loads. They have been incredibly solid, even with the UEFI GOP bios's I have running on them. I can't recommend 290x's enough, especially the Tri-X edition (I believe these come with Hynix memory but I could be wrong). A well-built 650W PSU will be plenty for a single R9 290x, and if you have specific PSU questions, send a message to @shilka, as he's incredibly knowledgeable about power supplies. Personally, I only used a Seasonic X-1250 1250W PSU only because I paid $97 for it from Slickdeals during last black friday. I was originally going to use a Seasonic X-750 or EVGA SuperNOVA 750G2. Also, OCN's 290/290x owner's club is extremely helpful and informative in case you have any questions or are overwhelmed once you purchase your graphics card. Keep us posted with what you end up getting and how it works out for you.

Edit~ I also do agree with other people in this thread who mention that a 290 would be a better choice. It's cheaper, is extremely close to a 290x in performance, and most importantly has the SAME memory bus as a 290x! smile.gif I think if you were in the used market (from forum sales), you could probably pick up a 290 for $20-$30 cheaper or more depending on the seller.
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