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It entirely depends what is important to you. If it's the fastest possible panel possible, in ALL aspects, but at the expense of viewing angles and colour reproduction, then yes, I would say the TN PG278Q was the best gaming monitor for that person. If however, you value viewing angles and colour reproduction high enough such that you want the best possible, while still maintaining a fast monitor speed (albeit not the fastest), then the PG279Q or the XB270HU would be preferred. Furthermore, if you use your monitor for anything else other than gaming, again one of the latter two would be best.

While generally true, don't forget to mention the BLB and IPS glow that plague this new IPS panel. Quite substantial detractors.
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XB270HU is the fastest in terms of input.

And I'd rather have this


Than this:

That doesn't tell the whole story though, just shows that the Swift has slightly more overshoot.

The Swift also has the fastest pixels ever tested by TFTcentral (on average almost twice as fast as the HU):

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While the slightly higher overshoot of the Swift does take away some of the benefits of it's much faster pixels, I think the Swift still comes out slightly ahead in motion.

As for input lag, it's pretty silly to think 3ms vs 4ms which is in the realm of margin of error is worth even talking about.


I plan on getting this new 165 Hz ASUS and also the X34 to compare versus the TN Swift. Although, I think overall for fast gaming the Swift will remain top. It's pixels are just so darn fast and no huge BLB/IPS glow problems.
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I plan on getting this new 165 Hz ASUS and also the X34 to compare versus the TN Swift. Although, I think overall for fast gaming the Swift will remain top. It's pixels are just so darn fast and no huge BLB/IPS glow problems.
Doesn't the AG coating bother you, though? Coming from a 4K semi-glossy TV, surely you miss the added clarity.
    
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Doesn't the AG coating bother you, though? Coming from a 4K semi-glossy TV, surely you miss the added clarity.

Wouldn't be surprised if the AG coating was already ripped off wink.gif
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As for input lag, it's pretty silly to think 3ms vs 4ms which is in the realm of margin of error is worth even talking about..
If that small difference is not worth talking about then I don't see why the faster pixels are any different. Both are so small that humans can't really notice the difference. Sure faster is better but we're entering the realm of diminishing returns and it becomes more a matter of preference regarding IPS glow, viewing angles, colors, coating, etc.
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I plan on getting this new 165 Hz ASUS and also the X34 to compare versus the TN Swift. Although, I think overall for fast gaming the Swift will remain top. It's pixels are just so darn fast and no huge BLB/IPS glow problems.

I'm glad you're getting the PG279Q, because your input on it based on facts will surely help many. However, you out of preference favour the TN-panels over the IPS-panels because of IPS glow and BLB issues, or so it seems by seeing your past posts. Anything would look bad compared to OLED though, and we've seen that from the photos you've shared. But again, you obviously cranked up the brightness up to 100% which no one would do when using it, or so I think.
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Doesn't the AG coating bother you, though? Coming from a 4K semi-glossy TV, surely you miss the added clarity.

It does, silly choice for a gaming screen. My favorite AR film is found on the Eizo FG2421, followed by the IPS panel used in all these new 144 Hz 27". I have the 55" 4K OLED, the TN Swift, 5K Dell (selling) and the HU.

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If that small difference is not worth talking about then I don't see why the faster pixels are any different. Both are so small that humans can't really notice the difference. Sure faster is better but we're entering the realm of diminishing returns and it becomes more a matter of preference regarding IPS glow, viewing angles, colors, coating, etc.

I think pixels twice the speed of another is a little more relevant then 1ms of input lag, but it may not be for you. In the end though I do think it is a preference of those listed attributes you state.

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I'm glad you're getting the PG279Q, because your input on it based on facts will surely help many. However, you out of preference favour the TN-panels over the IPS-panels because of IPS glow and BLB issues, or so it seems by seeing your past posts. Anything would look bad compared to OLED though, and we've seen that from the photos you've shared. But again, you obviously cranked up the brightness up to 100% which no one would do when using it, or so I think.

What was 100% brightness? My 3x HU's weren't at 100%, 40% if I remember correctly. Camera's always over-expose BLB and IPS glow, but they are still very valid negative attributes to IPS panels. As you have stated, I do feel TN viewing angle issues are a lesser evil than BLB and IPS glow.

As for OLED, yes the image is gorgeous. But 60 Hz is 60 Hz. redface.gif The OLED display is great for slow paced/immersion, the 144 Hz G-Sync is king for competitiveness.
Edited by CallsignVega - 10/4/15 at 1:19pm
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It does, silly choice for a gaming screen. My favorite AR film is found on the Eizo FG2421
If your favorite AG coating is found on the Eizo, and you want 120+ Hz for fast paced gaming, what's stopping you from using the FG2421 instead of the Swift?
    
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If your favorite AG coating is found on the Eizo, and you want 120+ Hz for fast paced gaming, what's stopping you from using the FG2421 instead of the Swift?

I'm gonna guess lack of VRR. Also how about that special glass coating or whatever it is that Dell uses on some of their monitors? I know little about it. I hope the Acer Z35 is semi glossy.
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Also how about that special glass coating or whatever it is that Dell uses on some of their monitors? I know little about it. I hope the Acer Z35 is semi glossy.
We call it semi-glossy, but, technically, all coatings on these monitors are matte. Semi-glossy is what they usually use on TV's, which is extremely low haze. Dell seems to only use glass on their cheaper models. It's not PDC, so it will have some internal reflections. Still better than AG, though.
    
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If your favorite AG coating is found on the Eizo, and you want 120+ Hz for fast paced gaming, what's stopping you from using the FG2421 instead of the Swift?

I don't do 1080p. Heck, 1440p is borderline acceptable. My setup for quite a while was the 3x Eizo portrait Surround. Kinda regretting selling it. Had a lot going for it.
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