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Again, for the 3rd or 4th time now, my argument is not that no such advantage exists. I have said from the first post that having a higher refresh rate gives some advantage. What I've been calling into question this entire time is the degree of said advantage. I feel that on average people are blowing this advantage way out of proportion, and that the product is being advertised as an important piece of equipment to own if you want to be competitive. I think this is very silly and untrue. The original post I quoted, which started this entire silly argument, was someone talking about the competitive advantage this monitor would give.

I've reiterated this point in almost every post I've made, yet people continue to quote those words, and then claim my argument is that higher refresh rate is either not noticeable at all or that it gives no benefit whatsoever. I've never said either of those things. Not once.
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Again, for the 3rd or 4th time now, my argument is not that no such advantage exists. I have said from the first post that having a higher refresh rate gives some advantage. What I've been calling into question this entire time is the degree of said advantage. I feel that on average people are blowing this advantage way out of proportion, and that the product is being advertised as an important piece of equipment to own if you want to be competitive. I think this is very silly and untrue. The original post I quoted, which started this entire silly argument, was someone talking about the competitive advantage this monitor would give.

I've reiterated this point in almost every post I've made, yet people continue to quote those words, and then claim my argument is that higher refresh rate is either not noticeable at all or that it gives no benefit whatsoever. I've never said either of those things. Not once.

Fair enough. However, we have been trying to tell you all along that the advantages are substantial enough to warrant a purchase. I don't mean this monitor per se, because there are other much cheaper monitors out there that can do 120/144hz nowadays.
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The advantages these monitors give you in competitive gaming is probably equivalent to the advantages a really expensive pair of cleats that athletics may buy or something like that. Basically they are better then the cheaper ones but when time comes for you to perform it'll be you doing all the work and if you suck then they won't help you at all.

If the only reason you're buying these monitors is because you think it'll help you do better in competitive gaming then you're buying it for the wrong reason. Sure these monitors can provide you with a little extra and every bit does matter, but not enough to justify buying it for that reason only.
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Hi -a bit off topic but since some were talking about video cards - would it be better for 4k gaming with (2x) GTX 980 Strix in SLI or (1x) GTX 980TI strix?

- edit: currently can do both setups with same price.
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Hi -a bit off topic but since some were talking about video cards - would it be better for 4k gaming with (2x) GTX 980 Strix in SLI or (1x) GTX 980TI strix?

- edit: currently can do both setups with same price.

The two 980s in SLI would be the better performers by a fairly good margin IF SLI is working properly in the game you're playing. Thing with dual card setups is your performance in games won't be consistent, getting the single most powerful card would avoid any SLI problems. Don't let that steer you away from a good deal, if you can get two 980s for $700 vs a single 980 ti do it. You'll be getting on average 10% more frames at stock clocks vs an oced 980 ti, and can probably widen that gap to 20%~ if you OC the 980s.
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Acer X34 on newegg: shipping starts at 13th: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009869&cm_mmc=unlocked-_-Article-_-acerx34-_-NA

Also updated TFT review: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_predator_x34.htm

Also info from Acer: Overclocking the Acer Predator X34 does NOT affect your warranty- which is nice.
Edited by Benny89 - 10/8/15 at 2:37am
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Acer X34 on newegg: shipping starts at 13th: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009869&cm_mmc=unlocked-_-Article-_-acerx34-_-NA

Also updated TFT review: http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/acer_predator_x34.htm

Also info from Acer: Overclocking the Acer Predator X34 does NOT affect your warranty- which is nice.

Could wait for the PG279Q or ASUS PG348Q (as it will be better) ACER QC is terrible and warranty is not enough (ASUS has 3 years and better support)

Thanks for the link though
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Acer X34 on newegg: shipping starts at 13th: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824009869&cm_mmc=unlocked-_-Article-_-acerx34-_-NA
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Could wait for the PG279Q or ASUS PG348Q (as it will be better) ACER QC is terrible and warranty is not enough (ASUS has 3 years and better support)

Thanks for the link though

Acer QC WAS bad on previous XB which was released too fast to be the only one on the market. But their previous monitors has as good (or bad) QC as Asus monitors, so that is not true. I am sure their new Predator series QC won't be any worse then Asus PGs QC. You can't just say that their whole QC is bad based on one product, when company is making hundreds of products.

I have no experience with either Asus or Acer support, so I won't comment on that, but I am not fanboy of any brand (my hardware is just choose based on quality and look, not brand) but this myths about Asus quality being so super is just silly. Reading about Asus Strix total failure, previous ROG SWIFT PG QC issues, motherboards issues at first months and lack of BIOS updates or problems with software of their keyboards that was just horrible to work with and to update, front panel issues are just few to mention.

Asus has no better QC then other brands, and can have even worse or better when it comes to particular product. Just like all top brands. And Acer also has 3 year warranty, I just ordered Acer 1080p monitor for my second screen for idle work and it has 3 years warranty.

And saying that PG348Q will be better than Acer X34 without even testing two monitors, without even reading reviews, comparsion, user reviews, bah! without even PG being released yet is just riddiculous. You have no idea what will be better until it is released, tested and compared. Besides both companies are using SAME PANELS (which are made by third-party) for all thier new monitors (27" and 34"), so if one brand will have issues with their monitor, the other one will also have them as they use SAME PANEL (that also first XB used).

Again, no fanboyism here, lets just stick to tests and reviews, no predicting future or brand-love.
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Acer QC WAS bad on previous XB which was released too fast to be the only one on the market. But their previous monitors has as good (or bad) QC as Asus monitors, so that is not true. I am sure their new Predator series QC won't be any worse then Asus PGs QC. You can't just say that their whole QC is bad based on one product, when company is making hundreds of products.

I have no experience with either Asus or Acer support, so I won't comment on that, but I am not fanboy of any brand (my hardware is just choose based on quality and look, not brand) but this myths about Asus quality being so super is just silly. Reading about Asus Strix total failure, previous ROG SWIFT PG QC issues, motherboards issues at first months and lack of BIOS updates or problems with software of their keyboards that was just horrible to work with and to update, front panel issues are just few to mention.

Asus has no better QC then other brands, and can have even worse or better when it comes to particular product. Just like all top brands. And Acer also has 3 year warranty, I just ordered Acer 1080p monitor for my second screen for idle work and it has 3 years warranty.

And saying that PG348Q will be better than Acer X34 without even testing two monitors, without even reading reviews, comparsion, user reviews, bah! without even PG being released yet is just riddiculous. You have no idea what will be better until it is released, tested and compared. Besides both companies are using SAME PANELS (which are made by third-party) for all thier new monitors (27" and 34"), so if one brand will have issues with their monitor, the other one will also have them as they use SAME PANEL (that also first XB used).

Again, no fanboyism here, lets just stick to tests and reviews, no predicting future or brand-love.

We can use facts

ACER Predator X34 QC problems

Coil whine
Banding
Not reaching 100hz
Buzz with a white screen
Bad backlight bleed

This is how bad ACER QC is at the moment

ACER have made so many mistakes for a while now. Also you only get a two year warranty with the ACER Predator X34, that is not enough for a £960 monitor (why only two years, could be bad quality) then there support is terrible.

If you are keeping the monitor for a long time, why not get the ASUS PG348Q (longer warranty, better support) we also do not know if ASUS have any surprises, they could be having Class 1 ISO monitor standard or they could have "Cherry picked" LG panels.

I do not understand why people do not wait for both to be released

The ASUS also looks so much better, the ACER Predator X34 in my opinion looks cheap

ASUS has made mistakes, not as many as ACER though
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We can use facts

ACER Predator X34 QC problems

Coil whine
Banding
Not reaching 100hz
Buzz with a white screen
Bad backlight bleed

This is how bad ACER QC is at the moment

ACER have made so many mistakes for a while now. Also you only get a two year warranty with the ACER Predator X34, that is not enough for a £960 monitor (why only two years, could be bad quality) then there support is terrible.

If you are keeping the monitor for a long time, why not get the ASUS PG348Q (longer warranty, better support) we also do not know if ASUS have any surprises, they could be having Class 1 ISO monitor standard or they could have "Cherry picked" LG panels.

I do not understand why people do not wait for both to be released

The ASUS also looks so much better, the ACER Predator X34 in my opinion looks cheap

ASUS has made mistakes, not as many as ACER though

Ok, you listed Acer X34 problems- now can you tell me about PG348Q problems? No you can't becasue it wasn't released yet and tested. It uses same Panel, man. Chances are very high it will have same issues. You can't judge yet before PG is even out. And I don't belive that one of two rich companies cherry picked panels, while other one was good with low quality left overs- that is not how business work if those are two major brands in monitor industry. It could happen but then Acer will loose my respect forever.

Only when PG348Q is released you can say which is better. Right now it is pure speculation.

I wait for both PG and XB to be released to purchase best product.

Also, looks is subjective. Me personally love design of new XB more then PG. As for X34 I have to agree- it looks worse then PG34 but I would like to check quality of both monitors before passing my judgment.

I think now there is 60% chance I will grab PG and 40% that I will grab XB, but I want to make sure first if Acer improved QC or not.
Edited by Benny89 - 10/8/15 at 5:06am
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