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post #3061 of 9408
I wonder if there is a third effect?

As I understand it, bleed is white light creeping around the edge of the screen.
IPS glow is a silvery sheen that can be seen in the corners but should disappear when you change your viewing angle.
However, all of the Acer monitors I tried had this yellow 'radiation' creeping out of the corners.
This is a video I took...


...and before anyone says it was the angle I shot it at, then I can honestly say the same effect was always there, no matter what angle I viewed from. I'd never seen anything like in before... like a mixture of bleed and glow. Maybe it is radiation and we are all being microwaved (joking).

The PG279Q I own does have a slight silvery sheen when viewing from the side but all the vids I shot were head on as the player views and I can't see any silver, white or yellow.
If the effect you are seeing is similar to above then it must be an intermittent fault with the panel because both Acer and Asus are using the same panel.
Is anyone seeing the same effect?
There's got to be a reason.

Shame as they are both awesome gaming monitors without this effect (and the dead pixels... and the dirt... and the creepy crawlies that so many have experienced.
post #3062 of 9408
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So the only way this screen would be better if when they lower the price. But that wont happen this year anyway.

I think the price reflects the lack of competition. The price drop will probably follow the Swift pg278q route.

http://pricespy.co.uk/product.php?pu=2714866
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Quick question. Does anybody think that they will be better batches next time. I mean with less to no glow in the corner? Or will AUO continue with this?

I would like to think so. It's still relatively new tech so there might be manufacturing issues and maybe we'll see further revisions down the line. Asus can't ignore the boat load of returns.

I haven't followed the PG278Q for some time but wasn't that plagued by issues on launch - did they get ironed out over time?
post #3064 of 9408
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Quick question. Does anybody think that they will be better batches next time. I mean with less to no glow in the corner? Or will AUO continue with this?
It's possible that they will, eventually, produce a 144 Hz capable AHVA panel with less glow, but i'm not sure if they can refine the current process for the manufacture of the current panel in order to create less glow.

I mean, the new HP 25XW monitor is using a cherry picked AH-IPS panel, seemingly very widely used on budget IPS monitors, but it has much less glow than its Dell counterparts. In the same way, perhaps we might see something new with the FS2735, but i'm very skeptical at this point.
    
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The problem is the PANEL. Every single monitor that ever uses this panel will be at its mercy, and ultimately it is a poor quality one, highly prone to BLB and Glow. I've never seen anything like it, and what's most annoying is when I read people saying "oh, this is just what you get with IPS"... NO! It's what you get with THIS particular IPS panel. Yes, IPS can suffer with glow, but I've owned several IPS monitors over the years and have never encountered one with the glow I've seen on countless versions of this panel. I wish would people would stop maligning IPS just because of this one bad apple.
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The problem is the PANEL. Every single monitor that ever uses this panel will be at its mercy, and ultimately it is a poor quality one, highly prone to BLB and Glow. I've never seen anything like it, and what's most annoying is when I read people saying "oh, this is just what you get with IPS"... NO! It's what you get with THIS particular IPS panel. Yes, IPS can suffer with glow, but I've owned several IPS monitors over the years and have never encountered one with the glow I've seen on countless versions of this panel. I wish would people would stop maligning IPS just because of this one bad apple.

Agree. I recently sold on a Dell UltraSharp U2412M IPS that was perfect. No glow, no bleed and as good as the day I got.

This AU Optics panel seems very hitty/missy. Wonder if the Freesync version suffers the same?
Strange how AUO are part of BenQ yet there's no Benq IPS GSync yet.
post #3067 of 9408
They merged with Acer so i think you mean Acer. Not BenQ or?
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The problem is the PANEL. Every single monitor that ever uses this panel will be at its mercy, and ultimately it is a poor quality one, highly prone to BLB and Glow. I've never seen anything like it, and what's most annoying is when I read people saying "oh, this is just what you get with IPS"... NO! It's what you get with THIS particular IPS panel. Yes, IPS can suffer with glow, but I've owned several IPS monitors over the years and have never encountered one with the glow I've seen on countless versions of this panel. I wish would people would stop maligning IPS just because of this one bad apple.

Yep. Totally agree. This panel has excessive amount of bleed, unfortunately.

I wonder if it’s a matter trade-offs for Asus/Acer at this point to use THIS panel and that simply there is no other thing available at the required specs (I mean speed, gsync capable, resolution)
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Agree. I recently sold on a Dell UltraSharp U2412M IPS that was perfect. No glow, no bleed and as good as the day I got.

This AU Optics panel seems very hitty/missy. Wonder if the Freesync version suffers the same?
Strange how AUO are part of BenQ yet there's no Benq IPS GSync yet.

Did not know this but if its true its prolly cause BQ wont put their name on such an inferior panel
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Did not know this but if its true its prolly cause BQ wont put their name on such an inferior panel

Yup. Au Optronics are part of the BenQ group... at least they were last year

My first one was only fit for the barbecue, never mind BenQ
You'd think the panel was made at B&Q biggrin.gif

Edit.. found a link

http://hexus.net/tech/news/monitors/74389-au-optronics-develops-144hz-refresh-ips-type-display-panels/


... actually it says that AU Optronics (AUO), part of the BenQ group.... Acer (BenQ) have panels made by them, so they are all in it together.. Acer, BenQ AUO, ASUS, B&Q etc.. Makes sense.

http://www.benqmaterials.com/english/05_about/about_detail.aspx?pid=4

Edited by Muleman - 10/21/15 at 6:36am
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