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exactly man, its really frustrating and makes no sense to me. Like- there is so much money to make in the PC market, yet the companies sit there with thumbs up their asses and dont even bring the up-to-date stuff from other markets like TV or Mobile devices to the PC market.

And this whole AHVA fiasco. Dude, the sell premium price monitors with panels, that you wouldnt even find in low budget TVs. Even in 400 Dollars 60" 4k TVs, you wouldnt find such trash panels with such a high failure rate, and yes I consider every panel with dirt, pixel error, extensive glow simply a bad panel that needs to get recycled out the bat and never even sent to the monitor manufacturers.

When you look at those quality IPS TVs- they never have pixel errors/dust problems or such a ridiculously extensive glow. Yes they might have BLB, but thats basically it.

Again, when you look at the quality IPS TVs, they look lightyears better than the AHVA trash that is beeing sold for a premium price, where you can consider yourself a lucky guy, if you dont have pixel errors/dust... Like come on, what is this ish`?

Have you ever been so nervous when buying an Iphone for the same price or a tablet or a TV? Yet with these monitors (278, 279, 270) they sell products with like 50% failure rate.

Yeah they remind me of the XBOX 360 as far as failure rate goes. The new Dell TN one seems to be off to a good start so far. I got my Vizio SPVA based TV for $500, and I doubt any computer monitor looks as good (excluding professional work where a $1500 NEC or Eizo IPS display is probably justified). Like you say, these AHVA panels wouldn't even cut it for cheap TVs, much less the TN panel used in the PG278Q and others. I hate being ripped off too. Most PC gamers don't realize how much we're getting milked with these monitors. That makes me a hypocrite too since I own one. rolleyes.gif
 
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Can I ask, where are you getting the information that ASUS makes the AU panel?

It is ACER (AU Optronics) that make the panel
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Yes makes a hypocrit out of me too biggrin.gif

BUt what can you do, when there are no alternatives? The lack of competition and alternatives is the main reason why they get away with such half assed trash.

Im forced to buy some trash TN monitor (XL2430T) for almost 400 EUR biggrin.gif And dont get me wrong, its build quality is not bad and the functions. Just the TN panel alone makes it trash, wich is what a surprise- also made by AUO smile.gif

Were really doomed untill OLED comes out. And then Samsung or LG will have some decent monitors, because you dont need specially designed panels for high refresh with oleds, oleds are easily capable of doing high refresh rate.

Effin AUO man...
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Can I ask, where are you getting the information that ASUS makes the AU panel?

It is ACER (AU Optronics) that make the panel

We are talking about the AUO AHVA panel, which is used in the PG279Q and MG279Q as well as the XB270HU. We both know dreaded AUO makes it.
 
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Tv's are all great until you go and measure the input lag and stuff on those puppies..
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It annoys me that this panel doesn't support G sync at the monitors refresh rate, say you're running at 144hz, and you have g sync and v sync enabled if you get 144fps or more in the game v sync will take over and lock the frame rate to 144fps introducing input lag, nvidea should make it so g sync is always controlling it not v sync, only way to get around it is cap the game at something lower than the reported refresh rate then g sync will be always in control. But yeah, I wanted to play league at 144hz with g sync!
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Tv's are all great until you go and measure the input lag and stuff on those puppies..

There are plenty that are fine for gaming. There's no ghosting/trailing on my VA TV, nor does it have an excessive amount of motion blur compared to my XB270HU. It also has good uniformity because it doesn't use a crappier MVA panel like what AUO makes.
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It annoys me that this panel doesn't support G sync at the monitors refresh rate, say you're running at 144hz, and you have g sync and v sync enabled if you get 144fps or more in the game v sync will take over and lock the frame rate to 144fps introducing input lag, nvidea should make it so g sync is always controlling it not v sync, only way to get around it is cap the game at something lower than the reported refresh rate then g sync will be always in control. But yeah, I wanted to play league at 144hz with g sync!

As far as I know, G-SYNC is supported at 144 Hz but that extra input lag is still there? Either way, I would think the lag difference isn't actually noticeable. You can always cap the frame rate to 140 or so, looks the same as 144 and no extra input lag.
 
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There are plenty that are fine for gaming. There's no ghosting/trailing on my VA TV, nor does it have an excessive amount of motion blur compared to my XB270HU. It also has good uniformity because it doesn't use a crappier MVA panel like what AUO makes.
As far as I know, G-SYNC is supported at 144 Hz but that extra input lag is still there? Either way, I would think the lag difference isn't actually noticeable. You can always cap the frame rate to 140 or so, looks the same as 144 and no extra input lag.
g sync is supported at that range, but not when it's the same as you monitors refresh rate, V sync will take over at that rate if you're constantly running at it or going over v sync will lock if to your monitors refresh rate, if you turn v sync of you can go over your monitors refresh rate but then you'll introduce screen tear again as you're getting more fps than your refresh rate.

Like you said the only way to do it is cap at say 140fps and g sync will be in control. It annoys me as you're paying a premium for g sync it should always be g sync controlling throughout the supported refresh rate
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I forgot that representatives of a company can't lie to save face. Any normal company wouldn't let a minority dictate what they do.
You're right. You should apply for a job at BenQ's financial dept and market analysis. They could use you.
    
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My local store just informed me that my PG was sent! I expect it today. The moment of truth is coming! Please RNG gods- have mercy on me and let me have good monitor!

Excited and nervous so much I probably won't sleep tonight tongue.gif
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