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post #3311 of 9392
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Solved....
The Asus OSD FPS counter is bugged.
After an hour's testing on various games I have come to the conclusion that the counter built into the monitor is accurate.... until you switch G-Sync OFF

Running FRAPS in the opposite corner (at the same time) shows that when G-Sync is ON, the FPS's match the Asus on screen counter. However, when G-Sync is OFF the counter remains stuck on the refresh rate.

Proof of the pudding...
RIGHT CORNER IS ASUS OSD FPS COUNTER
UPPER LEFT CORNER IS FRAPS

... the sheen on the screen is a reflection of a window behind.
So a £700+ monitor has a FPS counter that is less accurate than a free version of FRAPS.
Welcome to 2015

This is entirely how it should be.
It's impossible for a monitor to measure FPS with Gsync *OFF* due to there not being a direct link between the monitor and the video card and CPU. The monitor only knows the refresh rate. It has no way of measuring frames sent without the gsync module as it only sees refreshes. How would a monitor measure framerate if you have, for example, vsync off, and have a fixed refresh rate and are getting partial frames being sent Gsync changes that
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post #3312 of 9392
Saw the TFTcentral review.

Looks like a nice panel for gsync users. Now we have to see how the Eizo FS2735 does for freesync users (assuming the Eizo is using the exact same panel as the XB271HU and this panel)

But this still worries the hell out of me....

THOSE ULMB OVERDRIVE ARTIFACTS!
85hz looks great (assuming the XB270HU is identical to PG279Q at 85hz and using the TFTcentral review for the XB270HU)
100hz....ahem alright

but 120hz...give me a break. Dem overdrive artifacts !!!!

ULMB 120hz:


Benq blur reduction 120hz (AMA high, contrast 43, strobe width 1.5ms persistence)
(the image is NOT this dark!! I used low camera exposure (-0.2) to do a pursuit capture image without it being too blurry. it's much brighter than this).




Benq blur reduction 120hz, AMA low (undocumented/toggle), contrast 10: (low camera exposure -0.2)



Why can't we have nice things?
MORE overdrive adjustments on ULMB Monitors, please :/
Edited by Falkentyne - 10/24/15 at 1:01am
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People I never happy no matter what you have TN with good colors --> some inversion problems I have yet to see on my swift... Now people have new issues --> bright corners! Do you people even play games? I for a moment never remember looking at a corner while playing games...
post #3314 of 9392
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You guys realise that this is me right? I posted that very video on this thread. I didn't import it as I live in the UK. I'd also like to note that the glow and bleeding are nowhere near as noticeable as the video suggests. The camera on my S4 and S6 edge makes it look 10x worse than it is.

Really ? I found it on a forum and guy wrote he lives in US. In any case, that Metro looks pretty bad - there is shine in all four corners. I thought only bottom right is problematic.... I think other people doesn't have it so extensive. But maybe it's Samsung camera, because iPhone video camera is not so exaggerating. Important is that you are not bothered by it.
post #3315 of 9392
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People I never happy no matter what you have TN with good colors --> some inversion problems I have yet to see on my swift... Now people have new issues --> bright corners! Do you people even play games? I for a moment never remember looking at a corner while playing games...

Hehe, yes we play, but we also work smile.gif
post #3316 of 9392
OK, update: 2 monitors from 2 different shops later.
ALL of them had a slight color uniformity issue, it's noticable if you look for it. But the first monitor was the worst.
I think what I experience is exactly the issue the hexus review measured. Color uniformity.

I'm really angry right now. mad.gif Seems to be a general problem of this panel. Or maybe I'm just very sensitive to deltaE variation across the screen.
I wouldn't complain if I would only notice it on a pure grey screen or so, but also in everyday use: some websites, windows explorer. It's there.

So I really doubt that I got 3 bad panels with the exact same freaking problem and nobody else did.

Is the time not ready for panels like that? I really hope AUO will get their **** together and we will see really good monitors in the next year.
I think I will stick with my current monitor (not perfect, rather stiff joystick, a little bit of dust but not visible and of course the annoying color uniformity).

Please Asus, Acer, AUO, that's not what you should expect from a 850€ monitor.
post #3317 of 9392
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People I never happy no matter what you have TN with good colors --> some inversion problems I have yet to see on my swift... Now people have new issues --> bright corners! Do you people even play games? I for a moment never remember looking at a corner while playing games...
i could honesly live with any of the monitors posted in this thread smile.gif
the reason they're looking so much for flaws is the very expensive price that they've paid for this monitor. and they are right. at 1k usd you better make a flawless monitor and we have seen enough qc issues to complain about...
post #3318 of 9392
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i could honesly live with any of the monitors posted in this thread smile.gif
the reason they're looking so much for flaws is the very expensive price that they've paid for this monitor. and they are right. at 1k usd you better make a flawless monitor and we have seen enough qc issues to complain about...

Exactly. If I payed 400-500 Euro for it I would just deal with it. But 850 euro monitor should be flawless. However that also should be the case with flahship GPUs and we all know how it can go.

So pay and pray wink.gif
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post #3319 of 9392
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Uff, that's not good. I hated this on 278 but I thought it was TN technology (vertical gama shift, sides of the screen obviously brighter with yellow tint). So does IPS model have this issue as well? How it is in real life ? Can you see color shift along sides of the monitor ? Is top part obviously darker then the bottom part? Could you describe it in more details ? I'm pretty interested in it. Because my current LG IPS has no such issue and it was the main reason why I've returned 278Q.

Would wish there is some showroom where I can check for all these issues mentioned...

Okay, the issue is a slight color temperature gradient from left to right (warm to cool). You mostly notice it with grey colors.
Open a fullscreen pale grey picture and stare at it for a while. Then it's absolutely visible. Left side: warm grey, Right side: slighlty cooler
E.g. on a website with a grey background, you notice that color uniformity issue.

So to summarize my experience with the PG279Q as I think I am one of the few people that got hands on 3 different ones from 3 different shops:

1.) QC sticker on the package, glow prominent but acceptable - bottom right corner, BLB top right corner - acceptable, no dead pixel, dust stuck in upper middle of the screen but hard to notice, bad color uniformity issue, very visible

2.) no QC sticker, glow and BLB similar to number 1, no dead pixel, dust in the bottom left corner but again also hardly noticable, color uniformity issue also present but better than number 1, somewhat sticky joystick - sometimes a bit unresponsive (that's the one I'm currently using)

3.) no QC sticker, very strong glow in the bottom rigth corner, almost no BLB, no dead pixel, no dust, color uniformity also present

Number 3 would be the best one if there wouldn't be that intense glow so I kept number 2. But that one is also far from perfect.

What would you do? Keep number 2? Send them all back and wait for another batch or the new Acer XB271HU?

I ordered a replace for the first monitor from where I bought it. So one last chance. Maybe the best comes last wink.gif
Edited by biosmanager - 10/24/15 at 1:53am
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Okay, the issue is a slight color temperature gradient from left to right (warm to cool). You mostly notice it with grey colors.
Open a fullscreen pale grey picture and stare at it for a while. Then it's absolutely visible. Left side: warm grey, Right side: slighlty cooler
E.g. on a website with a grey background, you notice that color uniformity issue.

So to summarize my experience with the PG279Q as I think I am one of the few people that got hands on 3 different ones from 3 different shops:

1.) QC sticker on the package, glow prominent but acceptable - bottom right corner, BLB top right corner - acceptable, no dead pixel, dust stuck in upper middle of the screen but hard to notice, bad color uniformity issue, very visible

2.) no QC sticker, glow and BLB similar to number 1, no dead pixel, dust in the bottom left corner but again also hardly noticable, color uniformity issue also present but better than number 1, somewhat sticky joystick - sometimes a bit unresponsive (that's the one I'm currently using)

3.) no QC sticker, very strong glow in the bottom rigth corner, almost no BLB, no dead pixel, no dust, color uniformity also present

Number 3 would be the best one if there wouldn't be that intense glow so I kept number 2. But that one is also far from perfect.

What would you do? Keep number 2? Send them all back and wait for another batch or the new Acer XB271HU?

Hmmm, you either had a very bad luck or there is rally a problem with QC. Some people stated they have no dead pixel, no dust, only small amount of glow and their are pretty happy with that. No mention about color uniformity issue. This should not happen with IPS technology. This issue was exactly like you described on TN version and main reason I've returned but I would not expect it with IPS! There was also an obvious vertical gama shift where top 1/4 of the monitor was noticeably darker then the rest. But seems also IPS suffer from this!?! One would say this is not an IPS panel smile.gif

In any case, did you have chance to put your hands on XB270HU ? Probably there is not such issue, at least I've never heard it mentioned in reviews. I'm afraid that XB271HU will be the same as most probably it will use same panel as Asus. So really don't know what to do. If it distracts you then my advice is definitely to return it and wait for something better because from my on experience you will always try to convince yourself it is not so bad but it will bother you forever... From now on you will see it every time you turn on the monitor and never get rid of that feeling something is not OK. And as I said, for IPS technology this is just not acceptable.
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