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You meam like overall? Eizo and Dell are using samsung panels for example. At least they used same panel for their flashship IPS 1080p 24" monitors.
Honestly? I wouldn't go either of them. Both are basicelly e-peenises that have more flaws then worth the price.

I would wait for really worth upgrading monitor. Not IPS (at least not at this size, refresh rate and G-Sync), but VA or OLED and then buy it. Right now fast refresh rates panels are imo:

1. Not worth buying for immestions due to glow and bleed
2. Not worth buying for pure compteteive gaming if you can have cheaper TN panels with such as big refresh rate.

For competetive gaming I would buy EIZO FG2421 and call it a day till VA 1440p panel comes out.

Right now- it is just NOT WORTH money. Period.
i wanna buy one monitor with g sync...eizoo have better contrast but input lag and turbo 240 reduction sucks...so much input lag...isn t worth..then i don t know what is better monitor upgrade for me
post #3402 of 9409
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i wanna buy one monitor with g sync...eizoo have better contrast but input lag and turbo 240 reduction sucks...so much input lag...isn t worth..then i don t know what is better monitor upgrade for me
va panel are so slow..really hope a 144+hz va monitor with better input lag
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i wanna buy one monitor with g sync...eizoo have better contrast but input lag and turbo 240 reduction sucks...so much input lag...isn t worth..then i don t know what is better monitor upgrade for me

But you can turn off turbo 240 and just play on 120 Hz and then input lag is:

Total Display Lag (SMTT 2) 14.0 which is very good if you read TFT review of it.

Still better than both PG in case of gaming.

I am gonna send back my PG and buy this one for VA and 120Hz. I have nothing against sitting on 1080p little more till really worth 1440p screen comes out.
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But you can turn off turbo 240 and just play on 120 Hz and then input lag is:

Total Display Lag (SMTT 2) 14.0 which is very good if you read TFT review of it.

Still better than both PG in case of gaming.

I am gonna send back my PG and buy this one for VA and 120Hz. I have nothing against sitting on 1080p little more till really worth 1440p screen comes out.
you are wrong my friend :-)...this timing is pixel response time and pg279q have 11ms...for the absolute input lag pg279q have 3.25ms eizo have 14ms :-)...then pg279q and pg278q own without any problem eizo fg2421..then the best options now are pg278q tn or pg279q tn with they issues...i m going crazy for that
post #3405 of 9409
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Originally Posted by Benny89 View Post

You meam like overall? Eizo and Dell are using samsung panels for example. At least they used same panel for their flashship IPS 1080p 24" monitors.
Honestly? I wouldn't go either of them. Both are basicelly e-peenises that have more flaws then worth the price.

I would wait for really worth upgrading monitor. Not IPS (at least not at this size, refresh rate and G-Sync), but VA or OLED and then buy it. Right now fast refresh rates panels are imo:

1. Not worth buying for immestions due to glow and bleed
2. Not worth buying for pure compteteive gaming if you can have cheaper TN panels with such as big refresh rate.

For competetive gaming I would buy EIZO FG2421 and call it a day till VA 1440p panel comes out.

Right now- it is just NOT WORTH money. Period.

BTW Eizo FG2421 is made by SHARP, not Samsung.

Not intending to threadcrap you but I have to disagree with you:

Benq XL2720Z is better for competitive gaming than Eizo FG2421.
FG is a VA panel and has severe cross hatching problems and some have bad black crush issues
TFTcentral got a cherry picked FG2421 with no QA issues. Most people's samples ranged from worse to much worse.
Benq XL2720Z has single strobe blur reduction. 60hz-128hz in 1 hz increments (excluding 76hz), single strobe with VT 1497-VT 1502 tweaks (61-98hz) then 129-144hz with LCD Reduced timings. VERY low input lag, AMA low undocumented mode makes overdrive almost as good as the Eizo, very low uniformity issues, no backlight bleed, lower absolute input lag.
FG2421 can only strobe from 105-120hz. Strobes twice per refresh...one long pulse, one very short pulse (thus the name Turbo 240, 120hz x 2 but its just their name for their double strobe)
Lower crosstalk than XL2720Z without VT Tweak at least. Brightness 200 cd/m2 in turbo 240 mode.
Bigger chance of panel lottery (just as bad as XB270HU) with FG2421.

I recommended someone get an XL2720Z on hardforum for gaming, over the panel lottery gsync monitors and he loves it.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1879347&page=3
Edited by Falkentyne - 10/24/15 at 6:41pm
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va panel are so slow..really hope a 144+hz va monitor with better input lag

There's not much difference between 120 Hz and 144 Hz. You may want to ask @CallsignVega about the FG2421 as well, since he has owned at least three, as well as the XB270HU and PG278Q.
 
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I tried the 120Hz VA from Eizo like last week.. Returned it the same day.
The colour distortion from the viewing angles were mind blowingly bad (coming from IPS). Just by sitting right in front of it, the sides were really bad.
It also had a way too glossy coating on it. During the day, the black wasn't black anymore, it were objects from behind you...
Overall colours were pretty bad as well, definitely more towards TN than IPS.


Anyways, ordered the PG279Q but it'll be arriving in 1-2 weeks (Belgium - € 850). Didn't want to get it from Germany in case i have to return it.. (I can just drive to the shop)
If I don't find it good enough, I'm just returning it and waiting another year or so.. mellowsmiley.gif
Edited by SmokingCrop - 10/24/15 at 7:05pm
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I recommended someone get an XL2720Z on hardforum for gaming, over the panel lottery gsync monitors and he loves it.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1879347&page=3
Offtopic, but someone needs to tell that rabidz7 dude to stop talking about his CRT. I see him in multiple forums constantly talking about it and talking crap about 16:9 and LCD. Like, we get it, you like your CRT monitor. Get over yourself.
    
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BTW Eizo FG2421 is made by SHARP, not Samsung.

Not intending to threadcrap you but I have to disagree with you:

Benq XL2720Z is better for competitive gaming than Eizo FG2421.
FG is a VA panel and has severe cross hatching problems and some have bad black crush issues
TFTcentral got a cherry picked FG2421 with no QA issues. Most people's samples ranged from worse to much worse.
Benq XL2720Z has single strobe blur reduction. 60hz-128hz in 1 hz increments (excluding 76hz), single strobe with VT 1497-VT 1502 tweaks (61-98hz) then 129-144hz with LCD Reduced timings. VERY low input lag, AMA low undocumented mode makes overdrive almost as good as the Eizo, very low uniformity issues, no backlight bleed, lower absolute input lag.
FG2421 can only strobe from 105-120hz. Strobes twice per refresh...one long pulse, one very short pulse (thus the name Turbo 240, 120hz x 2 but its just their name for their double strobe)
Lower crosstalk than XL2720Z without VT Tweak at least. Brightness 200 cd/m2 in turbo 240 mode.
Bigger chance of panel lottery (just as bad as XB270HU) with FG2421.

I recommended someone get an XL2720Z on hardforum for gaming, over the panel lottery gsync monitors and he loves it.
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1879347&page=3
for u best 1440p 144hz g sync monitor for gaming obly with great response time is pg278 / pg279 / xb270hu ?
post #3410 of 9409
guys help me to take best decision...ips 144hz with glow and bleeding or tn 144hz with bad colors and lowest angle?
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