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post #3411 of 9392
Not for me because I have an AMD card, so I can't use gsync.
I am waiting for Eizo Foris FS2735.
I want to see if it has better blur reduction and more range than panel lottery FG2421.
if not, I will keep my XL2720Z.

60hz strobe is important to me. I have game emulators that are locked to 60 FPS so I need 60 fps 60hz strobe (single strobe).
I also want 91hz strobe (91hz, 91 fps). What monitor can do this besides original Benq Z series and old CRT? Nothing.

I know what gsync looks like. it's very nice and smooth, no lag, no jitters, but STILL motion blur! I cant stand motion blur!

It *IS* possible to combine gsync/freesync with blur reduction but you need hardware low level access to the firmware to directly communicate with it (to adjust crosstalk, overdrive, etc, on the fly), then you'd have to dynamically adjust the strobing to the variable refresh rate.

An old ACER monitor (S271HL) with a Realtek firmware had low level access enabled in the firmware, so blargg (on blur busters forums) was able to "hack" in a strobed backlight by using software commands to control the backlight and have it look just as good as benq blur reduction. But that Acer was the only monitor that left that backdoor access available to the user so it was impossible to control the backlight this way on other screens. Probably even XL2730Z even though that used a realtek chip also.

http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1426
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post #3412 of 9392
guys i have found pg278q 2nd hand like 530 euro,xb270hu new is like 650...pg279q isn t purchasable now in my country :S...it s worth buy 2nd hand pg278q for competitive gaming and some immersive or it better wait pg279q and pay 300 premium more?i think pg279q it s better but extra cash it s worth it?with glow and bleeding issues...i can buy pg278q new for 650
post #3413 of 9392
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Originally Posted by boredgunner View Post

I would expect better image quality with that new Dell TN (and the PG278Q). You've seen the comparisons between the PG278Q and XB270HU, the two owners said they're very close as far as picture quality goes.

I had PG278Q. In my opinion quality is not bad for a TN panel, but still bad in comparison with IPS. Users who never had an never seen IPS will be most probably satisfied with quality, but ones who had never ever. In my opinion it is not possible to switch from IPS to TN... For pure gamers maybe it doesn't matter, but for some serious work in Desktop - no way. I found the uniformity to be much distracting for me.
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Ok, I decided I am gonna send my monitor back for now and wait for new Acer XB and check this out. If both won't work, I am gonna wait for new 34" monitors and check them out for glow/bleed. I had no dead pixels/dust. But that doesn't change other facts.

There are few things that forced me to that decision. Let me explain:

1. Immersion: I am just immersion guy. Period. I am not competetive player, nor needing 144 Hz in single player games. I plsu SP games, RPG games and some MMO games, sometimes low demanding games like MOBS or other. I don't give a dam about 144Hz..
2. Glow and blacklight bleed drives me MAD. MAD. Like really MAD. I can't play games not to see this fking dam bleed and light at corners.
3. Angles. I have to sit at perfect dam position to minmize bleed/glow at corners etc. That is dam annoying. That is nowhere near comfortable playing. That sucks. I don't want that.
4. 1440p is great. I give it that. It is awesome to play with it. Also G-Sync. However- faulty chasis, bleeding, glow, angles! That is all JUST NOT FKING WORTH 850 euros.
5. This monitor is just not worth 850 euros. Hear me out- With its glow problems, bleed and other things- I would give it maximum of 500 euros. At this price I would be able to accept its faults.
6. I played at 60 FPS Thief, MGS, Watch Dogs and some others. Now I played on them on 80-120 FPS. And...yes. There is a differance. But not worth 850 euros. NOPE!

Right now I just play on it and every minute I feel like I overplayed for it by a HUGE margin. And I don't like it.

I have single OCed 980 Ti, 4790k CPU, nice case and some other things in my RIG. I don't feel like I overpayed for any of it. But with this monitor- I feel it on every step.

I think I am gonna buy for now some 144Hz TN/VA panel and just invest in second 980Ti to be able to play without G-Sync.

NOW- The only ONLY ONLY thing I will miss is G-Sync. Only that.


I will buy instantly VA, 1440p, 60Hz, G-Sync panel. Rest- not worth price for me.

Good decision. But don't by TN, it is a huge step back. VA is pretty fine but there is no VA panel with G-SYNC.
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Originally Posted by Ryzone View Post

Well some good news for you. I think Samsung is coming out with a 34" 100Hz SVA Panel. It is an ultrawide however. Here is a tweet by TFTCentral on said monitor https://twitter.com/TFTCentral/status/629586222558629888

Would be great if it have G-SYNC. But it won't... frown.gif
post #3414 of 9392
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Originally Posted by kashim View Post

guys i have found pg278q 2nd hand like 530 euro,xb270hu new is like 650...pg279q isn t purchasable now in my country :S...it s worth buy 2nd hand pg278q for competitive gaming and some immersive or it better wait pg279q and pay 300 premium more?i think pg279q it s better but extra cash it s worth it?with glow and bleeding issues...i can buy pg278q new for 650

I don't mean to sound like a sick, but you are smart enough to do your own research and read reviews or watch YouTube reviews.
post #3415 of 9392
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Originally Posted by misiak View Post

VA is pretty fine but there is no VA panel with G-SYNC. Would be great if it have G-SYNC. But it won't... frown.gif


Why not? Acer Predator Z35 144Hz has VA panel + GSYNC. The only bad thing is smaller resolution 2560x1080 instead of x1440.
post #3416 of 9392
@benny89- the solution for you is very simple if you play casually and for immersion- an overclockable korean ips monitor, the Crossover 2795 QHD, it overclocks to 96 hz at least and has a LG ips panel, which is like 20x better than the auo trash. It doesnt have gsync or freesync, but it only costs like 350 euro AFTER all Import Tax applied, probably even a little less in Poland, something like 330-340. That is a ridiculously good price for a 27" 1440p IPS monitor with 96 hz refresh rate. It only has 1 input though and you can only use it with a pc, consoles wont work.

I think for what you need this crossover monitor will be perfect untill oled arrives.

I mean its rly stupid, the monitor is 500 eur cheaper than a freakin pg279q and has less IQ problems with the panel etc. and it overclocks to 96hz most of the time, sometimes even 110hz or 120hz.
post #3417 of 9392
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Originally Posted by kashim View Post

guys i have found pg278q 2nd hand like 530 euro,xb270hu new is like 650...pg279q isn t purchasable now in my country :S...it s worth buy 2nd hand pg278q for competitive gaming and some immersive or it better wait pg279q and pay 300 premium more?i think pg279q it s better but extra cash it s worth it?with glow and bleeding issues...i can buy pg278q new for 650

For competitive players 278Q is good choice. It's fastest display on market. For PURE gaming I would say it is the best monitor actually. But if you want to use it also for some work in desktop, browsing, writing, etc. be prepared for some uniformity issues which I found pretty distracting. The biggest problem are angles of course and even from ideal sitting position you can see yellow tint along sides of the monitor. It's because very narrow viewing angle. And the intensity is changing even with very small movements of your head. Typical for TN. On white, or if you have explorer window maximized yo can see left part of the screen yellowish then white and again right part yellowish. Besides, it has very ugly vertical gama shift so the top part is obviously darker then center and bottom. It looks like the page has some gradient set. Very distracting as well. And then there is this pixel inversion of course. Besides this, it's great almost no bleed and no glow. So if you can live with this, then you can take it. But for me it's no way other than IPS so seems I need to accept some level of glow.
post #3418 of 9392
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Originally Posted by ReFFrs View Post

Why not? Acer Predator Z35 144Hz has VA panel + GSYNC. The only bad thing is smaller resolution 2560x1080 instead of x1440.

Really it's VA ??? Hmm, so why there are no 1440p VA panels with g-sync? Would be great. I would take also 1080p VA with g-sync but there aren't any.
post #3419 of 9392
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Originally Posted by Stars View Post

@benny89- the solution for you is very simple if you play casually and for immersion- an overclockable korean ips monitor, the Crossover 2795 QHD, it overclocks to 96 hz at least and has a LG ips panel, which is like 20x better than the auo trash. It doesnt have gsync or freesync, but it only costs like 350 euro AFTER all Import Tax applied, probably even a little less in Poland, something like 330-340. That is a ridiculously good price for a 27" 1440p IPS monitor with 96 hz refresh rate. It only has 1 input though and you can only use it with a pc, consoles wont work.

I think for what you need this crossover monitor will be perfect untill oled arrives.

I mean its rly stupid, the monitor is 500 eur cheaper than a freakin pg279q and has less IQ problems with the panel etc. and it overclocks to 96hz most of the time, sometimes even 110hz or 120hz.

The only problem I can see is lack of g-sync. For single 980Ti and 1440p G-sync is a must in current and upcoming AAA games. Of course if you don't want to live with tearing.

Btw, it looks extremely cheap and ugly :-/
Edited by misiak - 10/25/15 at 1:48am
post #3420 of 9392
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Originally Posted by misiak View Post

Really it's VA ??? Hmm, so why there are no 1440p VA panels with g-sync? Would be great. I would take also 1080p VA with g-sync but there aren't any.
So, Acer Z35 is actually 1080p VA (just not ordinary 1080p, but 2560x1080).

It's a rather exepensive model (1469 €), so I would like to get 1440p resolution for this price. 2560x1080 is too small for 35' panel. Big pixels will make the image look worse.
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