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Trust me, you wouldn't want to switch back to TN once you ever had an IPS :-P

I agree but for now I am going back to my 1080p IPS Eizo, which has absolutely ZERO bleeding and super tiny glow sometimes at extreme angles.

I can't stand the amount of bleeding of PG. It drives me mad. And I know that this is probably not panel fault (this would be glow) but monitor folding made by Asus.

Right now I asked for possible replacement for my unit to try once again if I can get unit with smaller bleeding. But if that would be impossible I am gonna return it, refund and hold my money and wait for new Acer. Maybe their bleeding will be smaller.

I am so dissapointed in this screen. Such overpriced product. The only good thing is 1440 with G-Sync. Rest is not worth money at all.
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Yep, the IPS glow on the XB270HU and the PG279Q is garbage. Sticking to 1440p/TN until they get their **** together.
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if u play in lightroom u can t see any bbleeding or glow effect?
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if u play in lightroom u can t see any bbleeding or glow effect?

Pretty much now unless you start looking for it on purpouse on dark background.

But I play mostly during evenings and night as I have work and family and I just like to play in dark room with all my station LEDs up and no light from windows hitting my screen.

So that is deal breaker for me. Bleeding. Glow I can handle. It is a matter of IPS panels and good angle can eliminate them. And they only make black greyish, which is NOT THAT bad.

But bleeding is just too much. You can see it, it makes glow looks stronger and it is just monitor folding fault. And yes- you can see it very well while playing in evening or during night or in very dark games.

It is just annoying at this price.

My Eizo IPS and my wife Dell IPS screens both has ZERO bleeding. Zero! Only some IPS glow, but that is normal. So that tells you a lot about how much effort each producer puts to fold their monitor.

Both Eizo and Dell have even tinner bazels than new PG and there is no bleed at all.

And I played in some SP games with about 80-120 fps. The more smooth image is very nice, I can asure you...but I would not have problems going back to 60 Hz. My e-peenis didn't get that hard wink.gif
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post #3475 of 9392
You know Stars, I think we all are here because of G-sync. It's not very clever to buy 1440p until you have not at least 2 strong GPUs for gaming. So it makes no sense to talk about non G-sync monitors. There are great 1440p panels out there for sure but without G-sync. And with 1440p and G-sync you have actually very limited possibilities.

Also, I think you don't need to wait for Dell. It will be TN panel most probably from AUO so it will not be any better than current PG278Q. I had a perfect one, but TN is a deal breaker.
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and for me? 278 or 279? both have some pro and some issues,i have found 2nd hand pg278 at 550$(in my country cost like 700$) and pg279q when released is like 900$

I would recommend you to take both and keep the one you like the better. There is no other way. I had to do the same. I did not know if I can live with TN and found out I can't. Your perception of image quality can be different than mine so maybe for you it will be good, especially if you never had IPS panel.
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You know Stars, I think we all are here because of G-sync. It's not very clever to buy 1440p until you have not at least 2 strong GPUs for gaming. So it makes no sense to talk about non G-sync monitors. There are great 1440p panels out there for sure but without G-sync. And with 1440p and G-sync you have actually very limited possibilities.

Also, I think you don't need to wait for Dell. It will be TN panel most probably from AUO so it will not be any better than current PG278Q. I had a perfect one, but TN is a deal breaker.
I would recommend you to take both and keep the one you like the better. There is no other way. I had to do the same. I did not know if I can live with TN and found out I can't. Your perception of image quality can be different than mine so maybe for you it will be good, especially if you never had IPS panel.
mmm then seem the only way to go
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mmm then seem the only way to go

Yep, take both and decide. You can always return one or both if you don't like it.
post #3478 of 9392
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And lol, most people don't have money to have both 144Hz TN and IPS monitors biggrin.gif. Not all people are rich or from rich countries.

You dont have to be rich, really. Here is a korean 144hz TN that has exactly the same panel as all the big name 144hz benq/asus etc:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pixel-QNIX-QX2414-144Hz-24-LED-1920x1080-Full-HD-FPS-Gaming-PC-Monitor-/121696946784

and you can even overclock it to 185-220hz. And it costs between 150-170 dollars. In any case, even if you leave it at 144hz, the color quality is as good as the big name 144hz TNs or even slightly better, and in terms of response time its pretty fast as well and should be AS good as benq/asus etc. for simple gaming. It has less functions like blur reduction etc., but the majority doesnt even use stuff like that.

So here we go a 170 dollar monitor, lets say 195 eur after import TAX applied, thats 200. Now you buy another solid 1080p or 1440p IPS monitor (even if without gsync) for like 250-300 eur. Thats 500 in total. I think if someones hobby is gaming, they will most likely be able to save up 500 eur in 1-2 years.. or how ever long it takes. You dont have to be rich to enjoy gaming on more modern monitors, just reasearch a little biggrin.gif

Now to the thing with most ppl beeing fine with 1080p. Yes thats because most ppl play on consoles and on consoles you have to accept how the things are, you have no choice. And thats why it also makes little sense for them to get 144hz/gsync/1440p monitors, because they wont see any benefit anyways on consoles and many dont know how much better things could look.

I mean even a couple of years back (well a couple more) I thought the tearing lines is because of the game engine or whatever, basically just depending on the games and just accepted it. But obviously I was wrong.

@misiak- I only mentioned the 2515h, because Benny suggested the other IPS Eizo which is also non-gsync. And from those 2, I would recommend the dell over eizo any time.

Other than that- I agree the IPS monitor should have gsync for campaign games. BUt if you play enough competitive games, which most of them have a very high fps anyways, you could go with a 144hz TN non-gsync for hardcore gaming and IPS with gsync for the fancy campaing games like witcher/bioshock and whatnot. But thats only for ppl who play a fair ammount of CS-Go, Battlefield, COD, maybe even quake live, doom etc.

Ppl who play casually ofcourse dont need a 2nd monitor.

But I think before oled monitors arrive, the TN will just stay a better choice for hardcore fps gaming.
post #3479 of 9392
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You dont have to be rich, really. Here is a korean 144hz TN that has exactly the same panel as all the big name 144hz benq/asus etc:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Perfect-Pixel-QNIX-QX2414-144Hz-24-LED-1920x1080-Full-HD-FPS-Gaming-PC-Monitor-/121696946784

and you can even overclock it to 185-220hz. And it costs between 150-170 dollars. In any case, even if you leave it at 144hz, the color quality is as good as the big name 144hz TNs or even slightly better, and in terms of response time its pretty fast as well and should be AS good as benq/asus etc. for simple gaming. It has less functions like blur reduction etc., but the majority doesnt even use stuff like that.

1440p TN is no for me. At this resolution non-competetive gamer like me want better image quality so only IPS or VA. Also no G-sync again. My single 980Ti OCed can get Withcer 3 maxed out to MAX 65 fps on 1440p. I don't need monitor that can overclock to even 1000Hz, because on single 980 Ti in newest titles in 1440p I won't see more then 80 fps. 80-85 fps I have in MGS V on 1440p.

I need G-Sync for 1440p. Period. I don't have money for second 980 Ti so G-Sync at this resulution with single GPU is a must for no-tearing when FPSes are droping and they do drop.

I don't play FPS games so higher refresh rate is not needed for me.

What I need is 1440p, G-Sync and VA/IPS/OLED panel. Can be even 60Hz, 100Hz, 500Hz- I don't care about refresh rate. Same with input lag, reaction time or ther "pro" things smile.gif.
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Just got info from my retailer that they will replace my PG with new one at the beginning of November. Also I should send my faulty monitor on their cost- nice.

Ok, baby goes back to box tomorrow and going back. I hope my replacement won't have bleeding. If it does- bye bye Asus, you won't get my money.

Now...I guess I should pray? biggrin.gif
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