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1440p TN is no for me. At this resolution non-competetive gamer like me want better image quality so only IPS or VA. Also no G-sync again. My single 980Ti OCed can get Withcer 3 maxed out to MAX 65 fps on 1440p. I don't need monitor that can overclock to even 1000Hz, because on single 980 Ti in newest titles in 1440p I won't see more then 80 fps. 80-85 fps I have in MGS V on 1440p.

I need G-Sync for 1440p. Period. I don't have money for second 980 Ti so G-Sync at this resulution with single GPU is a must for no-tearing when FPSes are droping and they do drop.

I don't play FPS games so higher refresh rate is not needed for me.

What I need is 1440p, G-Sync and VA/IPS/OLED panel. Can be even 60Hz, 100Hz, 500Hz- I don't care about refresh rate. Same with input lag, reaction time or ther "pro" things smile.gif.

Just got info from my retailer that they will replace my PG with new one at the beginning of November. Also I should send my faulty monitor on their cost- nice.

Ok, baby goes back to box tomorrow and going back. I hope my replacement won't have bleeding. If it does- bye bye Asus, you won't get my money.

Now...I guess I should pray? biggrin.gif

Yes, I would pray... I would pray a lot smile.gif Maybe you will not have bleed but you can have bad pixels or dust. Hope not...

In any case, the problem is that you will have tearing either the fps is below your refresh rate but also if it is higher. So you are stuck on fixed refresh rate without g-sync. And 60FPS sucks honestly. If you would try even 75Hz you would be amazed how big improvement this is. It's not only smoothness, blur reduction but input lag is much more improved. And it's only +15FPS. 100+ is a heaven... So it's pretty good to have 144Hz but ONLY with G-SYNC. Without you are always bound to fixed refresh rate or tearing. And tearing is very, very bad. At least for me. If the refresh rate is always not in sync with framerate it simply does not feel good.

So good you gave it another try, hope you have better luck. Then maybe it would be worth to try XB270HU... And that's it smile.gif
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Yes, I would pray... I would pray a lot smile.gif Maybe you will not have bleed but you can have bad pixels or dust. Hope not...

In any case, the problem is that you will have tearing either the fps is below your refresh rate but also if it is higher. So you are stuck on fixed refresh rate without g-sync. And 60FPS sucks honestly. If you would try even 75Hz you would be amazed how big improvement this is. It's not only smoothness, blur reduction but input lag is much more improved. And it's only +15FPS. 100+ is a heaven... So it's pretty good to have 144Hz but ONLY with G-SYNC. Without you are always bound to fixed refresh rate or tearing. And tearing is very, very bad. At least for me. If the refresh rate is always not in sync with framerate it simply does not feel good.

So good you gave it another try, hope you have better luck. Then maybe it would be worth to try XB270HU... And that's it smile.gif

Judging by last user reviews I am quite asured in terms of pixels and dust in this new batches. Seems like they are clean.

I love all features and design of new PG so if I get unit without bleeding- that is worth money. I will just replace it maybe till I get perfect one. But I really want this monitor. Just without bleeding please.
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Judging by last user reviews I am quite asured in terms of pixels and dust in this new batches. Seems like they are clean.

I love all features and design of new PG so if I get unit without bleeding- that is worth money. I will just replace it maybe till I get perfect one. But I really want this monitor. Just without bleeding please.

Seems it is really a great monitor beside bleed issues. Design and build quality is top. Can you do one test? Just open an explorer window and maximize it. Can you see any uniformity issues ? Like top of the screen darker then rest or left and right side brighter with some color shift? Or some yellow tint? Thx.
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Seems it is really a great monitor beside bleed issues. Design and build quality is top. Can you do one test? Just open an explorer window and maximize it. Can you see any uniformity issues ? Like top of the screen darker then rest or left and right side brighter with some color shift? Or some yellow tint? Thx.

Hey misiak. I just did what you asked. I was starring at screen for about 5 minutes and honestly I couldn't see any uniformity issues and not at all yellow tink. For me it was looking very uniform.

Maybe someone with some super-colour sensitive eye could tell something different but for every day guy like me with healthy eyes- I saw nothing that stood out.
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Hey misiak. I just did what you asked. I was starring at screen for about 5 minutes and honestly I couldn't see any uniformity issues and not at all yellow tink. For me it was looking very uniform.

Maybe someone with some super-colour sensitive eye could tell something different but for every day guy like me with healthy eyes- I saw nothing that stood out.

Thx, that's great. I'm sure you would notice it immediately if it would be a problem. And I'm pretty sure you would notice it within few seconds on a TN panel. So this is good news. Now only to sort out this bleed... Seems actually PG279Q is sold out everywhere - even on overclockers so I wonder when they will be on stock again. In my shop they are expecting it on 30.10 but I'm very doubtful.

I still don't know if I should buy 1440p. I've tried AC:U few minutes ago and while in 1080p it runs 100FPS, in 1440p it runs 63FPS. This is pretty huge drop and I don't know if I want to sacrifice resolution for framerate (fluidity). Hmmm, on the other hand I really like 27" but don't know if it is worth of 850 euro. Sure there are games which can run more than 100FPS but usually these are games for competitive players. Nowadays AAA title will run 60 - 80 FPS on 980Ti so I thing single card is not enough for solid 1440p/144Hz gaming .

For me ideal would be to have an IPS/VA 1080p G-sync monitor but I doubt it will ever be released. There are some 1080p G-Sync monitors but all TN.
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Thx, that's great. I'm sure you would notice it immediately if it would be a problem. And I'm pretty sure you would notice it within few seconds on a TN panel. So this is good news. Now only to sort out this bleed... Seems actually PG279Q is sold out everywhere - even on overclockers so I wonder when they will be on stock again. In my shop they are expecting it on 30.10 but I'm very doubtful.

I still don't know if I should buy 1440p. I've tried AC:U few minutes ago and while in 1080p it runs 100FPS, in 1440p it runs 63FPS. This is pretty huge drop and I don't know if I want to sacrifice resolution for framerate (fluidity). Hmmm, on the other hand I really like 27" but don't know if it is worth of 850 euro. Sure there are games which can run more than 100FPS but usually these are games for competitive players. Nowadays AAA title will run 60 - 80 FPS on 980Ti so I thing single card is not enough for solid 1440p/144Hz gaming .

For me ideal would be to have an IPS/VA 1080p G-sync monitor but I doubt it will ever be released. There are some 1080p G-Sync monitors but all TN.

How much is your 980Ti OCed? Witcher 3 on Ultra was about 55-70 fps for me on 1080p (everyting on) and my GPU was at 78-86% of usage most of the time, 99% only in super close cutscenes when it had to render Geralt hairs. Now on 1440p my fps where about 55-65 on same settings (droping in close cutsecenes) but I had constantly 99% of GPU usage so my GPU was finally working at full power.

I say 1440p is good becasue you will invest in future. If I can get PG without bleeding I can easly see myself keeping this monitor for next 5 years. And by this time I will probably replace my GPU one or 2 times and they will be more powerful than 980Ti I have now so it will only get better at this resolution.

Besides truth to be told- on 1440p you can easly turn down some settings if you want and get higher FPS while keeping better graphics than on 1080p- so there is always some middle ground here.

And you can always buy second 980Ti in few months if needed smile.gif.
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How much is your 980Ti OCed? Witcher 3 on Ultra was about 55-70 fps for me on 1080p (everyting on) and my GPU was at 78-86% of usage most of the time, 99% only in super close cutscenes when it had to render Geralt hairs. Now on 1440p my fps where about 55-65 on same settings (droping in close cutsecenes) but I had constantly 99% of GPU usage so my GPU was finally working at full power.

I say 1440p is good becasue you will invest in future. If I can get PG without bleeding I can easly see myself keeping this monitor for next 5 years. And by this time I will probably replace my GPU one or 2 times and they will be more powerful than 980Ti I have now so it will only get better at this resolution.

Besides truth to be told- on 1440p you can easly turn down some settings if you want and get higher FPS while keeping better graphics than on 1080p- so there is always some middle ground here.

And you can always buy second 980Ti in few months if needed smile.gif.

It's Asus Strix so the max. clock reading by afterburner is 1392Mhz. I've just checked it (all ultra, hairworks disabled) and on 1080p I have 90FPS and on 1440p 64FPS. GPU usage at 99% constantly in both case. Seems you CPU is bottlenecking your card at 1080p in Witcher 3. What CPU do you have ?

Yes, you can buy second card but the power consumption would be crazy and I'm worried of microstuttering. I'm extremely sensitive to it. And if it would stutter then g-sync has no meaning for me.

Turn down settings... You know the only setting which can be reduced is AA. All other things will reduce the overal image quality so I'm not sure if this I want to sacrifice. You know I bought 980Ti because I want to enjoy games in the best graphics they provide. So AA is the only option I'm willing to sacrifice.

Indeed it can be a future proof until OLED with g-sync hit the market. But I would take OLED even in 60Hz and without G-Sync. This will be a next milestone for monitors. I just wonder why it is not here already because I saw LG 55" TV 1080p with OLED technology for around 2K euros. So I want to see a monitor like that smile.gif
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So I think I have decided to return my second PG279Q. The backlight bleed / IPS Glow is just too much on this monitor. It ruins the overall picture and I just can't help but get distracted by it.

I too love the 1440p, 165hz, G-Sync combo but unfortunately ASUS haven't done a very good job with this monitor,

Shame I have to go back to a BENQ 2420T 1080p @ 120hz unless I can find a suitable replacement for now.

For £750, it's just not good enough.
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It's Asus Strix so the max. clock reading by afterburner is 1392Mhz. I've just checked it (all ultra, hairworks disabled) and on 1080p I have 90FPS and on 1440p 64FPS. GPU usage at 99% constantly in both case. Seems you CPU is bottlenecking your card at 1080p in Witcher 3. What CPU do you have ?

Yes, you can buy second card but the power consumption would be crazy and I'm worried of microstuttering. I'm extremely sensitive to it. And if it would stutter then g-sync has no meaning for me.

Turn down settings... You know the only setting which can be reduced is AA. All other things will reduce the overal image quality so I'm not sure if this I want to sacrifice. You know I bought 980Ti because I want to enjoy games in the best graphics they provide. So AA is the only option I'm willing to sacrifice.

Indeed it can be a future proof until OLED with g-sync hit the market. But I would take OLED even in 60Hz and without G-Sync. This will be a next milestone for monitors. I just wonder why it is not here already because I saw LG 55" TV 1080p with OLED technology for around 2K euros. So I want to see a monitor like that smile.gif

There are some things that you can turn down a little bit, you should check out the guide from nvidia:
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/guides/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-graphics-performance-and-tweaking-guide

You can even compare different settings with two images and a slider, really awesome.

example is foliage visibility range, difference between ultra and high:
http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/comparisons/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-foliage-visibility-interactive-comparison-4-ultra-vs-high.html
Not really a difference you'll actually notice when playing (thicker trees in the distance) but quite a huge impact on fps:
http://international.download.nvidia.com/geforce-com/international/images/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt/the-witcher-3-wild-hunt-foliage-visibility-performance.png
Edited by SmokingCrop - 10/26/15 at 3:38pm
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It's Asus Strix so the max. clock reading by afterburner is 1392Mhz. I've just checked it (all ultra, hairworks disabled) and on 1080p I have 90FPS and on 1440p 64FPS. GPU usage at 99% constantly in both case. Seems you CPU is bottlenecking your card at 1080p in Witcher 3. What CPU do you have ?

Yes, you can buy second card but the power consumption would be crazy and I'm worried of microstuttering. I'm extremely sensitive to it. And if it would stutter then g-sync has no meaning for me.

Turn down settings... You know the only setting which can be reduced is AA. All other things will reduce the overal image quality so I'm not sure if this I want to sacrifice. You know I bought 980Ti because I want to enjoy games in the best graphics they provide. So AA is the only option I'm willing to sacrifice.

Indeed it can be a future proof until OLED with g-sync hit the market. But I would take OLED even in 60Hz and without G-Sync. This will be a next milestone for monitors. I just wonder why it is not here already because I saw LG 55" TV 1080p with OLED technology for around 2K euros. So I want to see a monitor like that smile.gif

But I have hairoworks on in both cases to max and with x8 AA on them. My CPU is 4790k Devils Canyon so I don't think that CPU is holding me back smile.gif.
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So I think I have decided to return my second PG279Q. The backlight bleed / IPS Glow is just too much on this monitor. It ruins the overall picture and I just can't help but get distracted by it.

I too love the 1440p, 165hz, G-Sync combo but unfortunately ASUS haven't done a very good job with this monitor,

Shame I have to go back to a BENQ 2420T 1080p @ 120hz unless I can find a suitable replacement for now.

For £750, it's just not good enough.

Same here mate, but I am giving Asus one more shot and asked for replacement. If that will also have such bleeding- I am just gonna return it and refund and wait for Acer XB as last shot.

Can't you ask for replacement first and try one more time with Asus? I am willing for one more go.
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