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I have a hard time believing you didn't notice the TN color shift. To me it's far worse than IPS glow and I'd have a hard time going back to TN. I think you just are used to it.

The PG279Q certainly has bad glow though. Worse than the XB270HU from my experience.

Well then let me tell you this so you can belive- I never ever noticed any thing like "colour shifting" or "uniformity problems" of TN panels. I heard about them first time in this thread and when I started to be interested in monitors and upgrade.

So yea, if I didn't notice it- I can live with it. Mean- you do not look for it- you do not see it.

But IPS glow- anyone can see it if he has sight. Any darker background and it just glows yellow.

So yea, I can take TN over IPS if that means no yellow glow in corner....
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Well then let me tell you this so you can belive- I never ever noticed any thing like "colour shifting" or "uniformity problems" of TN panels. I heard about them first time in this thread and when I started to be interested in monitors and upgrade.

So yea, if I didn't notice it- I can live with it. Mean- you do not look for it- you do not see it.

But IPS glow- anyone can see it if he has sight. Any darker background and it just glows yellow.

So yea, I can take TN over IPS if that means no yellow glow in corner....

You may be right... it really does entirely depend on your experience. I've been using IPS for years, and I can't stand TN... it just looks washed out with yellow whites and grey blacks that no amount of calibration can fix, and the colour shift is clear as day to my eye. I've never had an IPS with bad glow though, all the ones I've had have been fine. It is only newer panels that seem to suffer badly with this, namely the ones manufactured by AUO and used in the PG279Q and XB270HU. If I had an IPS monitor that exhibited the glow I've seen in some pictures, I would not be able to live with it for 5 minutes!! The X34 21:9 LG panel appears slightly better based on what I've seen, but until these new IPS panels start improving their production processes to avoid these issues, or better yet start fitting polarizers which will virtually eliminate glow, I won't be buying one.
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I would take uniformity problems over IPS glow. Thing is I have never even known about uniformity problems of TN panels until I heard about it in this thread. Hell, I was playing on TN monitors for last 10 years and never noticed it by myself.

However, glow- you can't not notice it. It is annoying and just irritating and it always interrupt me while gaming.

I am on 1080p IPS right now but I SO MUCH MORE PREFER it to PG279Q in terms of immersion couse I have no glow-bleed that it is just sick.

Yesterday I was playing MGSV- after 6 hours I noticed that I was playing 6 hours totally soaked into game. With PG279Q glow I couldn't play like that even for hour, seeing this terrible yellow glow.

If my next PG have same problems as previous I will try Dell TN. I wan 1440p and G-Sync and I can handle TN over IPS if that means no glow. Really. That is just me but I now what I want. Immersion.

You right, extensive glow can be very annoying. But so does screen uniformity. In games you will not notice it often, but in desktop, especially windows 10 with solid color windows it's damn distracting...
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I have a hard time believing you didn't notice the TN color shift. To me it's far worse than IPS glow and I'd have a hard time going back to TN. I think you just are used to it.

The PG279Q certainly has bad glow though. Worse than the XB270HU from my experience.

I've had Samsung TN maybe 5 years ago but I also didn't notice any big abnormalities in screen uniformity to be honest. But on this PG278Q I've noticed it immediately. The main problem from me was that top part of the screen was obviously darker then rest. You could get rid of this only if your eyes were in one line with top frame. But it was not comfortable and then the bottom part was pretty bright. Also on solid backgrounds I could see that left and right side had some color shift, the screen was brighter with yellowish tint. I don't know if this is usual with bigger TN panels 27"+ or the ROG had some uniformity problems. Did you observe such behavior with TN panels you had?

Did you have Acer XB270HU? I'm really tempted to try it but I'm worried about bleed and glow. It is bad or do they improved ? If Asus has worse glow, then this is also no way for me...
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I gotta say I have no idea what to expect in terms of glow... I have an old Dell FPW2405 which I think is either IPS or MVA, not sure, but I took a picture of it and it doesn't look very great either:

But... this is just the phone making it look terrible, I don't see this myself at all. This screen looks awesome to my eyes. So no idea if maybe I'm just not too critical and I wont have a problem with a PG279Q that isn't too bad, or if they actually are much worse than my current screen.
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Well then let me tell you this so you can belive- I never ever noticed any thing like "colour shifting" or "uniformity problems" of TN panels. I heard about them first time in this thread and when I started to be interested in monitors and upgrade.

So yea, if I didn't notice it- I can live with it. Mean- you do not look for it- you do not see it.

But IPS glow- anyone can see it if he has sight. Any darker background and it just glows yellow.

So yea, I can take TN over IPS if that means no yellow glow in corner....

Same here. After using the PG279Q for almost 2 weeks now going back to my TN panel, I haven't really noticed much difference in terms of colour / quality. I certainly haven't noticed any flaws with the TN. The glow on the PG279Q however was very noticeable.

The biggest thing for me is going back to 1080p as everything looks too big now and you get a lot less on the screen. If I can find a happy, high quality medium (hoping the dell might be it) I will be chuffed with that. £594 is a lot of money for the Dell though and can't find any reviews yet.
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Does anybody here have any experience with Korean IPS monitors that are 2560 X 1440, and are usually overclockable to 100 Hz? I'm building a PC and looking at all these issues is making me consider going for something cheaper till all these companies get their act together.

I am just hoping the reason why Acer is delaying their XB271HU is because they are aware of the issues and taking the time to ensure better QC. But that is just wishful thinking.

The PG279Q is also terribly overpriced in Europe considering that it will sell for $800 in the US.
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I gotta say I have no idea what to expect in terms of glow... I have an old Dell FPW2405 which I think is either IPS or MVA, not sure, but I took a picture of it and it doesn't look very great either:

But... this is just the phone making it look terrible, I don't see this myself at all. This screen looks awesome to my eyes. So no idea if maybe I'm just not too critical and I wont have a problem with a PG279Q that isn't too bad, or if they actually are much worse than my current screen.

But you see, here is the differance. You have some glow in bottom right corner. Same as I have some glow in bottom left corner of my current IPS 1080p Eizo. You also have little BLB in bottom left corner.

But YOURS glow (and my Eizos) is blueish/sliverish! That is normal, typical, 100% expected IPS glow to have. You can't avoid it. BUT that cold coloured glow blends very good in dark scenes. Of course it makes black less black, but that is IPS. However being blueish/silverish- it does looks fine and you can stop noticing it after few days.

BUT on my PG279Q this glow was yellow/yellowish/goldish. Now that is a glow that you just can't notice. It annoys so much in dark scenes, menus, movies, games. IT GLOWS YELLOW!

I have nothing against IPS glow really. But yellow glow is sign of faulty panel.

So if my PG would look like yours monitor- I will be totally fine with it.
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Yellow glow doesn't mean a faulty panel, it depends on the type of IPS panel used. Some IPS panel models have white glow on both sides, some models have white glow on the left side and yellow glow on the right side.
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Yellow glow doesn't mean a faulty panel, it depends on the type of IPS panel used. Some IPS panel models have white glow on both sides, some models have white glow on the left side and yellow glow on the right side.

That is not what I meant. PG has yellowish GLOW on right side. Means when you look at it at angles it is more yellowish than bluesih left side. However right top corner when looking straight at it has no yellow glow. Same as when you look at straight angle on left side you see not blue glow. But bottom right corner was showing ugnly yellow glow even when sitting at straight position in front of screen where every other of 3 corners didn't have glow at all. But bottom right had very bright and visiable trinagle glow. That is faulty panel.
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That is not what I meant. PG has yellowish GLOW on right side. Means when you look at it at angles it is more yellowish than bluesih left side. However right top corner when looking straight at it has no yellow glow. Same as when you look at straight angle on left side you see not blue glow. But bottom right corner was showing ugnly yellow glow even when sitting at straight position in front of screen where every other of 3 corners didn't have glow at all. But bottom right had very bright and visiable trinagle glow. That is faulty panel.

We've already established that this panel has more glow than normal for IPS panels though. I guess all panels are defective then... well that's not far off the truth biggrin.gif
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