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When is this monitor available for purchase in the US. I need this monitor bad.
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The best TN and fastest IPS panels measure similarly with regard to black depth at TFTCentral. IPS glow will always be a problem with these IPS monitors however. Both are terrible for dark scenes.

Personally, every TN I've tried in dark scenes is worse than my Samsung PLS (IPS). It's not perfect, but it does a better job based on what I've experienced. The Dell S2716DG looks interesting, but I am not convinced it will satisfy me having used IPS for so long now. Not to mention the fact that it's also an AUO panel in the Dell, which hardly inspires confidence!

I have used several IPS monitors where glow hasn't been a problem. It may have been there, but it was never a distraction. Washed out colours and poor viewing angles would be though, all the time.
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The best TN and fastest IPS panels measure similarly with regard to black depth at TFTCentral. IPS glow will always be a problem with these IPS monitors however. Both are terrible for dark scenes.

Glow would not be as big of a problem if a polarizer is used, but of course they're not going to do that. But you're right in that both TN and IPS panels plain suck for dark scenes in general with their abysmal 1,000:1 contrast vs VA panels and the king of contrast, OLED.
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IPS is better than TN when it comes to dark scenes though, assuming glow/BLB is minimal. The problem is finding one of these new gaming IPS screens that doesn't suffer with this... impossible task it would seem. Blacks on TN look far more washed out and grey than they do on IPS. Add VA in to the mix and that's better still when it comes to blacks... only when you see the pure black that OLED is capable of do you realise they're ALL rubbish lol!

We can forget OLED making any kind of appearance in PC monitors for at-least a couple of years yet, but I would quite happily settle for a 100Hz+ VA 1440p G-Sync/Freesync panel right now... unfortunately no sign of that coming anytime soon despite the rumours, and nothing official has been confirmed.

I gave in hoping for a well-made IPS gaming panel. I decided that I wanted a new monitor but wasn't willing to spend €800+ to play the lottery. So I ended up with the BenQ XL2703Z and a Fury. It's not exactly what I wanted, but great 1440p GPU's (980ti) were just too expensive over here in Europe, especially when paired with G-Sync 1440p panels. I'll wait another 2-3 years and hopefully someone will have released a 21:9 or 16:9 monitor I really can be satisfied with. And of course, both AMD and nVidia will be twice as powerful as they are now so I'd have no qualms rocking a 3440x1440p monitor with either companies. It was either stick to 1080p, pay a fortune and spin the lottery, or compromise with a less expensive but still very solid setup. I'm not over the moon, but I'm happy.
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I don't know guys, I had this Benq PVA panel with 3000:1 cobtrast but I wasn't really blown away if compared to my LG IPS... Blacks was bit better but not very much. I've expected much better. It was 27" 1080p and it was terrible. So I've returned it.

@Benny, seems that right top corner is worst. Can you check for uniformity? Put solid bacground - white best and check if for example top is darker than rest of if there is any yellowish tint. Btw isn't the screen to dull with such low brightnes? What if you set to 70% ??? Can you see any bleed or glow more prominent? Thx
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I don't know guys, I had this Benq PVA panel with 3000:1 cobtrast but I wasn't really blown away if compared to my LG IPS... Blacks was bit better but not very much. I've expected much better. It was 27" 1080p and it was terrible. So I've returned it.

Every BenQ VA monitor I've seen actually showed around 2000:1 contrast in reviews despite BenQ listing 3000:1 in the specs. But it could have other issues like with color accuracy.
 
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I don't know guys, I had this Benq PVA panel with 3000:1 cobtrast but I wasn't really blown away if compared to my LG IPS... Blacks was bit better but not very much. I've expected much better. It was 27" 1080p and it was terrible. So I've returned it.

@Benny, seems that right top corner is worst. Can you check for uniformity? Put solid bacground - white best and check if for example top is darker than rest of if there is any yellowish tint. Btw isn't the screen to dull with such low brightnes? What if you set to 70% ??? Can you see any bleed or glow more prominent? Thx

As boredgunner said, that 3,000:1 is just the quoted contrast ratio but in reality it's probably lower which is why you found it to be lackluster. There are plenty of monitors that quote 1,000:1 contrast when it ends up being as low as 600-700:1. But at the end of the day LCDs in general are simply not good when it comes to contrast in comparison to CRT, plasma, and definitely OLED.
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Every BenQ VA monitor I've seen actually showed around 2000:1 contrast in reviews despite BenQ listing 3000:1 in the specs. But it could have other issues like with color accuracy.

That's true, colors have been much worse than IPS. Really was not impresed but it could be also because of that low resolution.

I'm curious how is the picture of PG279Q and XB270HU if compared to my LG IPS. I will find soon...
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As boredgunner said, that 3,000:1 is just the quoted contrast ratio but in reality it's probably lower which is why you found it to be lackluster. There are plenty of monitors that quote 1,000:1 contrast when it ends up being as low as 600-700:1. But at the end of the day LCDs in general are simply not good when it comes to contrast in comparison to CRT, plasma, and definitely OLED.

That's for sure, seems OLED is our only redemtion. But we have to wait several years for them :-(
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Although panel contrast ratio does obviously have an effect, I suspect the main culprit in the low perceived contrast is rather the matte coating on most monitors tbh.
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