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He would have to disassemble and debezel the panel (as if he were going to dematte like Vega does) and then reassemble the panel.
That would be the only way.

Also, how do we know this is being caused by Panel itself (AUO's fault) or by BEZEL (Acer/Asus' fault?)

How do you find which?

Also not all 27" TN panels are trash.
remember Benq XL2720Z is 27" too. But it's 1080p TN..



That's my XL2720Z

Yup.

I expected IPS glow in corners- no way to avoid that. This one has minimum in 3 corner, silverish glow- very good, hard to notice in game, easy to forget even in dark game. However bleed at the edge of my left eye is impossible to not notice.

Bleeding area has 8,5 cm lenght (left edge of screen) and reach to about 4-4,5 cm deep to screen. So it is impossible not to notice in dark scenes.

I have just sent my supplier email with camera pictures and request for another (last!) replacement.

Now, if that fails, I am going to hold money and try new Acer XB (only once!) and if that fails I am going for TN. I have enough of this bleeding crap on screen. I wanna sit in front of my screen and soak into game for god sake.

Your TN btw looks superb compare to my IPS in terms of blackness.
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Well I just got home and had to catch up on 46 post lol. Damn Benny I really thought this was a winner, that bleed sucks. sadsmiley.gif My happiness went from 100-0 as I kept reading haha. All in all these IPS gaming screens are just not ready in quality >.< What number RMA are you on now?
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Well I just got home and had to catch up on 46 post lol. Damn Benny I really thought this was a winner, that bleed sucks. sadsmiley.gif My happiness went from 100-0 as I kept reading haha. All in all these IPS gaming screens are just not ready in quality >.< What number RMA are you on now?

I also thought that was winner. But bleed revealed itself after few hours of gaming and now it just glows there in dark content.

Well, tomorrow my supplier will read email and answer it so if I get another replacement that'd be third PG. But this will be last, I won't play more lottery. If third one won't be good I am giving up on Asus. This is just riddiculous...

Asus seems to think that I am idiot and I will not recognize faulty monitor and just say "must be IPS feature!" rolleyes.gif


My adivce to future PG buyers (lol)- don't accept ANY AMOUNT of bleeding spots in your monitor. At first they seem small but after few hours/days/weeks they may become larger just like my bleeding spot did.

Pure IPS glow or return- no compromises.
Edited by Benny89 - 11/5/15 at 6:41pm
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Just trying to be realistic that is all, does not look like there are many 100% PERFECT panels about, so you are going to be returning a lot of monitors if you are going to be trying to get 100% perfect, if that even exists. I cannot see how people returning 10's of monitors, would do anything other than push prices up somehow eventually.

So if you ran a company and a significant percentage of your customers were returning a faulty product, ranting and raving to anyone who would listen about how bad it was, which had the knock-on effect of negatively impacting further sale of your already very costly product, your response would be to MAKE IT MORE EXPENSIVE? You haven't really thought this through have you?? biggrin.gif
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I just took another picture in Standard mode (Brightness 20, Contrast 43, blur reduction=off, 120hz) and tried to put the camera lens more towards where my face would be. You can see the start of the gamma shift making the edges look like they have some bleed but that's not bleed. And Eye separation is larger than the tiny lens, also, so the camera exaggerates it slightly but that's as close to realistic as I can get it.



I'll say this directly:
This Benq is FAR better than the two Asus VG248QE's I have.
The first isn't quite so bad (but it does have one stuck subpixel although it didn't originally at new), but it developed a...ahem...strange "burn in" type afterimage that seems to be the same distance (roughly) in size from the edge of the bezel to the panel (which doesn't make sense as that monitor has been powered off, but plugged in for over a year). The second VG248QE (a few months newer) doesn't have that but the black levels and uniformity are MUCH worse on it. Much worse (although no stuck pixels).

The Benq looks like a $5,000 screen compared to the VG248QE's. Just so much more uniform and deeper blacks from it...(or at least even at brightness 50 it isn't so washed out, it's still TN so not much you can do about the 1000:1 contrast ratio).

(no, not taking pictures of the VG248...if I did you might decide to keep your PG279Q...seriously).
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I just took another picture in Standard mode (Brightness 20, Contrast 43, blur reduction=off, 120hz) and tried to put the camera lens more towards where my face would be. You can see the start of the gamma shift making the edges look like they have some bleed but that's not bleed. And Eye separation is larger than the tiny lens, also, so the camera exaggerates it slightly but that's as close to realistic as I can get it.



I'll say this directly:
This Benq is FAR better than the two Asus VG248QE's I have.
The first isn't quite so bad (but it does have one stuck subpixel although it didn't originally at new), but it developed a...ahem...strange "burn in" type afterimage that seems to be the same distance (roughly) in size from the edge of the bezel to the panel (which doesn't make sense as that monitor has been powered off, but plugged in for over a year). The second VG248QE (a few months newer) doesn't have that but the black levels and uniformity are MUCH worse on it. Much worse (although no stuck pixels).

The Benq looks like a $5,000 screen compared to the VG248QE's. Just so much more uniform and deeper blacks from it...(or at least even at brightness 50 it isn't so washed out, it's still TN so not much you can do about the 1000:1 contrast ratio).

(no, not taking pictures of the VG248...if I did you might decide to keep your PG279Q...seriously).

Gotta agree with you on BenQ monitors, they seem to have really great quality control. The 2730Z I briefly had was pretty much spot on perfect with no defective pixels or foreign particles under the screen coating. Plus the back light bleed was practically non existent!

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That matte coating though......How could you not dematte that gem of a monitor......I could imagine it would look just as good as an IPS if dematted...I do understand (And vega did mention this) that you have to take EXTRA care with dealing with a dematte'd screen, but still...

BTW why did you get rid of it?
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I just took another picture in Standard mode (Brightness 20, Contrast 43, blur reduction=off, 120hz) and tried to put the camera lens more towards where my face would be. You can see the start of the gamma shift making the edges look like they have some bleed but that's not bleed. And Eye separation is larger than the tiny lens, also, so the camera exaggerates it slightly but that's as close to realistic as I can get it.



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The Benq looks like a $5,000 screen compared to the VG248QE's. Just so much more uniform and deeper blacks from it...(or at least even at brightness 50 it isn't so washed out, it's still TN so not much you can do about the 1000:1 contrast ratio).

(no, not taking pictures of the VG248...if I did you might decide to keep your PG279Q...seriously).


I've had BenQ XL2430T, XL2720Z, RL2755HM, ASUS VG248QE, EIZO FG2421, ACER 270HU, ASUS PG278Q and out of all of them BenQ had the best QC imo.
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That matte coating though......How could you not dematte that gem of a monitor......I could imagine it would look just as good as an IPS if dematted...I do understand (And vega did mention this) that you have to take EXTRA care with dealing with a dematte'd screen, but still...

BTW why did you get rid of it?

I was looking at some additional 1440p options to compliment my Acer as a secondary screen. What I found stupid was the pricing of 27 inch 1440p 60Hz displays that run for almost the same price as a 2730Z at around the $500 price point....So I figured why not just buy a 2730Z as a secondary screen? That way, should I ever switch to AMD I will have myself a 1440p 144Hz Freesync display to use as well and will simply make the BenQ my main and my Acer my secondary and vice versa. I have absolutely no experience when it comes to the dematte process so there was no way I was going to risk it on such an expensive monitor haha. I have a buddy who was willing to buy the monitor off of me for the same price I paid for it if I ended up not liking it enough it so long as I could guarantee him a problem free monitor and save him the trouble of playing the panel lottery. Ended up selling it to him and he's been extremely happy with it despite being an nvidia user.
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So, here we go guys. Which one do you think is better ? smile.gif Don't have time for them now, so I will test later. Wish me a luck...

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