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So guys, short summary after initial testing of PG279Q. I'm not that impressed. First I've instantly noticed (even few review stated this) the top 1/3 is obviously darker then rest. It reminds me what I had on TN panel, this gama gradient on the top. Looks a bit strange it you browse this forum and top comments are darker then rest. It's not so bad as with TN but obviously it is here! At least uniformity on sides is good. I was not used to this with IPS.

I did not find any dead pixels or dust though.

But, there is glow in 3 corners - yellowish one. Top left is perfect, the rest poor. I think it's yellow because of BLB. Here I took a screenshot from a video. Brightness on default settings (80).

So I think I will give chance also to Acer. I'm curious especially for this uniformity issue.


It looks like yellowish to me. You left corner is simmilar to mine right on my first PG, same for top right. At least that is what I can tell from picture. My current PG has whiteish glow in every corner.

If there is yellowish glow in corner- return, that is faulty panel. It should be whiteish/silverish glow as you move head to extreme angles and only a little bit blueish on left side.

Anything yellow is bad. My all corners generate slight, small whiteish glow with little bit of blue on left side. But yellow is BLB. My BLB strip ( that is the reason that I send this one back) also is yellowish.

To summary: silverish/whiteish and little blueish- IPS glow. Yellowish/goldish is BLB. I can confirm this at least with this panel on 100% after having two of them.
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Have you tried lowering the Brightness and Contrast to TFT's recommended settings? Imo, you've got much less bleed and glow than 90% of people in this thread, considering that that brightness is at 80. Try reducing the brightness and see how the bleed is.

Bleed has nothing to do with Brightness. It is damaged panel that cause bleeding, mechanical isssue. I tested my both PG from 10-100 brightness and it reduces ONLY IPS glow. Bleeding won't be reduced. Better- the darker you make the screen, the more you will notice bleeding.

Besides it does not matter if he has less bleed or more- bleed is no acceptable as it is fault. IPS glow on other hand is something unavoidable and only user can decide if his is good or too much for him.
Edited by Benny89 - 11/6/15 at 9:55am
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I had PG278Q. It died after 9 month and Asus gave my money back. Actualy i wanna buy PG279Q but after read all of this problem , i feel nauseous. I'm thinking to get BenQ XL2730Z. I know it have Freesync but better price ( Almost 320$ cheaper) and better quality. Who know maybe later i will use AMD card rolleyes.gif

And Benny89 thanks all of this test thumb.gif
post #4093 of 9392
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Have you tried lowering the Brightness and Contrast to TFT's recommended settings? Imo, you've got much less bleed and glow than 90% of people in this thread, considering that that brightness is at 80. Try reducing the brightness and see how the bleed is.

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It looks like yellowish to me. You left corner is simmilar to mine right on my first PG, same for top right. At least that is what I can tell from picture. My current PG has whiteish glow in every corner.

If there is yellowish glow in corner- return, that is faulty panel. It should be whiteish/silverish glow as you move head to extreme angles and only a little bit blueish on left side.

Anything yellow is bad. My all corners generate slight, small whiteish glow with little bit of blue on left side. But yellow is BLB. My BLB strip ( that is the reason that I send this one back) also is yellowish.

To summary: silverish/whiteish and little blueish- IPS glow. Yellowish/goldish is BLB. I can confirm this at least with this panel on 100% after having two of them.
Bleed has nothing to do with Brightness. It is damaged panel that cause bleeding, mechanical isssue. I tested my both PG from 10-100 brightness and it reduces ONLY IPS glow. Bleeding won't be reduced. Better- the darker you make the screen, the more you will notice bleeding.

Besides it does not matter if he has less bleed or more- bleed is no acceptable as it is fault. IPS glow on other hand is something unavoidable and only user can decide if his is good or too much for him.

Beny is right. Anything yellowish is just BLB and this asus had it in 3 corners. Brightness has no effect on this. And more you look on a black screen, the more prminent it is.

After deeper look ar a sceeen I have found out tha it has no dead/stuck pixels butit has tiny like one pixels spots of dirt. Very hard to notice though.

Neverheless I opened XB270HU, I had lights on and was impressed at the first side. Uniformity much better than asus, especialy top is not darker and gama is better as well. Factory calibration sas pretty good and close to gama 2.2. Asus seemed like 2.0 - 2.1. Did not play much but Acer wins here. In day the image is perfect.

I switch off lights and 3 corners fro 4 are absolutely great. But guess which corner is yellowish? Right, damn bottom right corner. There is small ammount of bleed and it makes this. Otherwise this screen would be perfectly acceptable. I found one stuck pixel which shimes green on black but almost imposible to find. There is same dirt or what as with asus. I will do more tests later but now I'm going to grt some beer smile.gif
post #4094 of 9392
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Beny is right. Anything yellowish is just BLB and this asus had it in 3 corners. Brightness has no effect on this. And more you look on a black screen, the more prminent it is.

After deeper look ar a sceeen I have found out tha it has no dead/stuck pixels butit has tiny like one pixels spots of dirt. Very hard to notice though.

Neverheless I opened XB270HU, I had lights on and was impressed at the first side. Uniformity much better than asus, especialy top is not darker and gama is better as well. Factory calibration sas pretty good and close to gama 2.2. Asus seemed like 2.0 - 2.1. Did not play much but Acer wins here. In day the image is perfect.

I switch off lights and 3 corners fro 4 are absolutely great. But guess which corner is yellowish? Right, damn bottom right corner. There is small ammount of bleed and it makes this. Otherwise this screen would be perfectly acceptable. I found one stuck pixel which shimes green on black but almost imposible to find. There is same dirt or what as with asus. I will do more tests later but now I'm going to grt some beer smile.gif

LOL, I started to read about your XB and was like "Yay, we have keeper" and then BUM! bottom right corner strikes again!! Yay!

Sorry mate, I know your pain. My supplier just sent me email saying that they need to order new batch so I don't know when I will get my replacement, but I don't have anything to lose as new Acer XB is not out yet so there is no other alternative to this one.

Have a nice beer.

To all other people and potential buyers-

Don't belive that yellow glow in corners can't be avoided or it is IPS feature. That is BS, I confirm at 100%. My first PG replacement have ALL corners with little pure silverish/whiteish glow with little bit blue on left side. There is no slight amount of yellow in corners. It is same as TFT central reviewed unit. If not for bleeding that I have on left edge- that would be same perfect screen as TFT one received.

AND THAT IS HOW YOUR PG SHOULD LOOK LIKE. Any glow in corners- only silver/blueish.



I confirm that mine looks like that except it has bleed at left edge and only that is why it is going for another replacement.

Anything yellow is bad assembled panel and is coused by damaged made to panel and Backlight Bleeding. Also backlight bleeding is always pale yellowish/goldish light.

Next thing- This monitor has right to only have glow in corners when looking at centre (IPS glow) any glow at edges of screen, be it left, right top or bottom is bleed and should not be there.

And anyone who tells you that yellow glow is normal in this IPS screens (AUO IPS panels)- tells you BS.

Edited by Benny89 - 11/6/15 at 11:04am
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Yeeeah, this is looking like my adventures with the XH270HU all over again. I'll give the PG279Q a shot, but this is not boding well for my preorder.

All I want is a 1440p G-Sync IPS with that I can play MGS:V on in the dark without BLB ruining it. redface.gif
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Yeeeah, this is looking like my adventures with the XH270HU all over again. I'll give the PG279Q a shot, but this is not boding well for my preorder.

All I want is a 1440p G-Sync IPS with that I can play MGS:V on in the dark without BLB ruining it. redface.gif

You cannot use any IPS screen in a dark room, you would be better having some ambient light or using a VA / OLED screen.
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You cannot use any IPS screen in a dark room, you would be better having some ambient light or using a VA / OLED screen.

BS. I can use mine pretty dam good. In total darkness you see only little bit of pale silverish glow in 3 corners, not even reaching 2 cm deep in screen. That is in total dark. If not for bleeding at left edge I wouldn't even see this glow in Dark Souls in pure dark room. I only see this glow if I look for it. My eyes don't even catch in it total dark playing Dark Souls.

So yes, you can play IPS in dark room no problem- if you have good unit without problems. My EIZO gives me no problems in dark, my wifes IPS Dell and LG also.

If your unit is not damaged/faulty and does not have bleeding or yellow extensive glow in corners- you can play at dark room no problem.

Besides what is the point of having badass monitor with LED stand, LEDs in your desk, Big PC case with big window, RGB keyboard and mice if you play in well lit room?! What is the point....lol...
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I plan on ordering a PG279Q sometime in late November/early December (I live in the United States). I personally don't play a lot of dark games (I mostly play competitive games like League of Legends and CS:GO), so I can manage with minimal BLB. However, I will not tolerate excessive BLB, dead pixel(s), dirt spot(s), etc.
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You cannot use any IPS screen in a dark room, you would be better having some ambient light or using a VA / OLED screen.

Not true.. I have an Acer IPS 60hz 1080p monitor and I play in the dark without any issues.
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You cannot use any IPS screen in a dark room, you would be better having some ambient light or using a VA / OLED screen.

I'm not following your reasoning here. If the XB270HU's I tried didn't have BLB, I would've been perfectly happy playing darker games like MGS in the dark.

I am considering some ambient lighting behind my monitor though to relieve the eye strain.
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BS. I can use mine pretty dam good. In total darkness you see only little bit of pale silverish glow in 3 corners, not even reaching 2 cm deep in screen. That is in total dark. If not for bleeding at left edge I wouldn't even see this glow in Dark Souls in pure dark room. I only see this glow if I look for it. My eyes don't even catch in it total dark playing Dark Souls.

So yes, you can play IPS in dark room no problem- if you have good unit without problems. My EIZO gives me no problems in dark, my wifes IPS Dell and LG also.

If your unit is not damaged/faulty and does not have bleeding or yellow extensive glow in corners- you can play at dark room no problem.

Besides what is the point of having badass monitor with LED stand, LEDs in your desk, Big PC case with big window, RGB keyboard and mice if you play in well lit room?! What is the point....lol...

Ok but if you are used to VA or OLED with high contrast and local dimming, then any IPS just does not cut it sorry. I only use IPS with some ambient light.

If YOU are happy with 1000:1 contrast + IPS glow in a dark room then that is no problem, but I am used to a local dimming VA TV, so in comparison IPS looks crap in a dark room so I use a 2w 6500k bulb in the room so the monitor is not the only light source, I suggest you try the same. Saying that IPS is not good in a dark room is not BS at all, saying IPS is good in a dark room is more misleading than saying it isn't.
Edited by Nicholars - 11/6/15 at 12:15pm
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