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then no better control quality and same issues then acer :-/...ips 144hz sound like heavy fault...some lucky guys have grey glow and bleeding corner,but all pay like 1000 euro for this lottery,no way :-/.some better option for high refresh rate and g sync monitor?swift have problem,dell have same panel,ips 144hz sucks then O M G! :-(
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Yeah that last one he posted was honestly the best 144 Hz AHVA monitor I have ever seen. Probably the best anyone has ever had. I don't think it's possible to get one better, until something changes on their (AUO and/or ASUS) end.

And THAT is precisely why we get crap. If that is best one you ever seen that means they are crap. I respect my money and I won't tell anyone to accept faulty products or not, thats their money. But I respect mine and also I respect my self as aware customer who don't buy bran-new faulty products.

People said same thing about my first one PG- not that bad, XB were worse, you might get worse one next bla bla- I got better one. Still bad but MUCH better than first.

If next one will not be perfect, I simply won't buy one. If that would be dust or maybe one stuck pixles somewhere, I would maybe keep it. But bleed once you see it, YOU ALWAYS spot it during gaming, becasue you KNOW THAT IT SHOULDN'T be there.

IPS glow is something you are aware of haveing if you buy IPS. So you just stop noticing it. Same as sound of fans in your case. But bleeding is like coil whine in GPU- you can't not notice it AS YOU KNOW IT SHOULD NOT BE THERE.

It is always possible to get better one. It is like saying that you can't find anyone stronger, anything faster, anything darker etc. There is always something better. Chaces are other subject but giving up is always first step to lose.

So I will try my luck. My current PG is best proof that you CAN get perfect screen. I was SO close to it. But that does not mean that I will accept fault.

In the end If I will have to go for TN I will and if TN will have issues that TN normaly has (like IPS glow on IPS) I will play with ease knowing I don't have faults that SHOULD NOT be there.

I am that kind of guy that if once sees fault in hardware- I always see it, notice it, look for it- so there is no way I can stop noticing it.

Besides I am patient, I was picking my 980 Ti for 4 weeks, returned 2 of them before I got what I wanted to pay for smile.gifthumb.gif
Edited by Benny89 - 11/6/15 at 4:27pm
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Couldn't agree more Benny89. You and I are so alike in that respect. My DELL is arriving in the morning so expect my review later on in the day smile.gif
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And THAT is precisely why we get crap. If that is best one you ever seen that means they are crap. I respect my money and I won't tell anyone to accept faulty products or not, thats their money. But I respect mine and also I respect my self as aware customer who don't buy bran-new faulty products.

People said same thing about my first one PG- not that bad, XB were worse, you might get worse one next bla bla- I got better one. Still bad but MUCH better than first.

If next one will not be perfect, I simply won't buy one. If that would be dust or maybe one stuck pixles somewhere, I would maybe keep it. But bleed once you see it, YOU ALWAYS spot it during gaming, becasue you KNOW THAT IT SHOULDN'T be there.

IPS glow is something you are aware of haveing if you buy IPS. So you just stop noticing it. Same as sound of fans in your case. But bleeding is like coil whine in GPU- you can't not notice it AS YOU KNOW IT SHOULD NOT BE THERE.

It is always possible to get better one. It is like saying that you can't find anyone stronger, anything faster, anything darker etc. There is always something better. Chaces are other subject but giving up is always first step to lose.

So I will try my luck. My current PG is best proof that you CAN get perfect screen. I was SO close to it. But that does not mean that I will accept fault.

In the end If I will have to go for TN I will and if TN will have issues that TN normaly has (like IPS glow on IPS) I will play with ease knowing I don't have faults that SHOULD NOT be there.

I am that kind of guy that if once sees fault in hardware- I always see it, notice it, look for it- so there is no way I can stop noticing it.

Besides I am patient, I was picking my 980 Ti for 4 weeks, returned 2 of them before I got what I wanted to pay for smile.gifthumb.gif

What happened to your 980 Tis?
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So guys, after couple of beers I've tested more PG279Q and this will be not a keeper definitely. Besides some minor blb and glow I could stand, I found uniformity the bigger problem. I have actually XB720HU and PG279Q side by side and on Asus I can clearly see that more than 1/3 of top of the screen is darker. White is reddish on top and I found this pretty annoying. XB270HU does not have this issue. I guess this is a flaw with current batch of PG279. So be very aware of this.... It's exactly what HEXUS review said and I can only confirm:

"There's a fair degree of luminance variation across the screen, with or without calibration, manifested by the upper portion of the screen being darker than the central point. We expect to see up to 25 per cent deviation from an IPS-type display; the Asus numbers are just outside that."

If this wouldn't be there I would probably keep it, but this is deal breaker. I found it similar with vertical gradient of TN panels and it was main reason why I've returned it. What a shame. On IPS this I not acceptable.

XN270HU is perfectly uniform, I don't have any issues with it. I found one stuck green pixel on black background but it is not visible until I'm looking for it. It's sad but I could live with that. Asus is pixel perfect though. In both PG279Q and HB270HU I found couple of tiny dust particles which are not visible though. But they should not be there, it's manufacture flaw for sure.

All 3 corners are perfect without glow or bleed, but the bottom right is not perfect unfortunately as there is glow from bottom frame. But what is interesting this is probably assembly fault because when I twist it with my hands it goes much better. However I'm not able to make this persistent.

In total dark game this is noticeable, and I think it is more distracting than glow from 3 corners of ASUS. I found it less distracting on Asus.

But overall, image quality of both screens is very good. I would say it is standard for IPS. Maybe a lit a bit worse than my LG IPS panel. But not much so this is fine.

It's not bad overall but it's not perfect. During a day there is absolutely no problem with Acer and the image is sharp and clear. Asus would be perfect as well if there is not gama shift which degrades overal great build and image quality. It's a pity, really.

So don't know what to do now. If I would know this gradient is a batch issue, I would probably return both and wait until they fix it. But I don't know this ever happen and in that case I would say Acer is better choice if you looking for image quality.

@Benny, did you notice the same issue ? Can you check for it ?
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Back light bleed will most likely go away on these after good amount of burning in. My xb270HU was horrid i set fullscreen white back ground set brightness to 100 and left on for hours on end and by 3 days all back light even on right corner gone.
The heat evened out the panel layers were light was escaping.
People are too quick to judge and returning these without actually breaking them in.
Edited by C3321J6 - 11/6/15 at 6:53pm
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So guys, after couple of beers I've tested more PG279Q and this will be not a keeper definitely. Besides some minor blb and glow I could stand, I found uniformity the bigger problem. I have actually XB720HU and PG279Q side by side and on Asus I can clearly see that more than 1/3 of top of the screen is darker. White is reddish on top and I found this pretty annoying. XB270HU does not have this issue. I guess this is a flaw with current batch of PG279. So be very aware of this.... It's exactly what HEXUS review said and I can only confirm:

"There's a fair degree of luminance variation across the screen, with or without calibration, manifested by the upper portion of the screen being darker than the central point. We expect to see up to 25 per cent deviation from an IPS-type display; the Asus numbers are just outside that."

If this wouldn't be there I would probably keep it, but this is deal breaker. I found it similar with vertical gradient of TN panels and it was main reason why I've returned it. What a shame. On IPS this I not acceptable.

XN270HU is perfectly uniform, I don't have any issues with it. I found one stuck green pixel on black background but it is not visible until I'm looking for it. It's sad but I could live with that. Asus is pixel perfect though. In both PG279Q and HB270HU I found couple of tiny dust particles which are not visible though. But they should not be there, it's manufacture flaw for sure.

All 3 corners are perfect without glow or bleed, but the bottom right is not perfect unfortunately as there is glow from bottom frame. But what is interesting this is probably assembly fault because when I twist it with my hands it goes much better. However I'm not able to make this persistent.

In total dark game this is noticeable, and I think it is more distracting than glow from 3 corners of ASUS. I found it less distracting on Asus.

But overall, image quality of both screens is very good. I would say it is standard for IPS. Maybe a lit a bit worse than my LG IPS panel. But not much so this is fine.

It's not bad overall but it's not perfect. During a day there is absolutely no problem with Acer and the image is sharp and clear. Asus would be perfect as well if there is not gama shift which degrades overal great build and image quality. It's a pity, really.

So don't know what to do now. If I would know this gradient is a batch issue, I would probably return both and wait until they fix it. But I don't know this ever happen and in that case I would say Acer is better choice if you looking for image quality.

@Benny, did you notice the same issue ? Can you check for it ?

I checked last time when you asked and I didn't notice any uniformity issues with my PGs. I may not be that senstive to it as you, but I was trying different backgrounds (violet, pink, green, red) and didn't notice it. I don't know If I do something wrong but I just didn't notice it.

The only other things I could say- if you are not 100% sure- dont keep it. If you find something distracting now it will always distract you later. At least that is for me.
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What happened to your 980 Tis?

First one was MSI 980 Ti Gaming and it coudln't go above 1490 on clock. Return. Next one was EVGA Classified 980Ti- I did 1500 but temps where too hight (although not as much as MSI). Finally I got 980 Ti Gigabyte G1 and I am now on 1520 stable on air (can go up to 1535 with max OV) with great temps max 74 on 1440p in Witcher 3. So yeah, I play a lottery to get best what I pay for smile.gif 100% satisfied with my 980 Ti now.
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Back light bleed will most likely go away on these after good amount of burning in. My xb270HU was horrid i set fullscreen white back ground set brightness to 100 and left on for hours on end and by 3 days all back light even on right corner gone.
The heat evened out the panel layers were light was escaping.
People are too quick to judge and returning these without actually breaking them in.

I agree, I see a ton of people on here returning it the second they get it. Play with it extensively for a good week, and then see if the issue is still there.
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Back light bleed will most likely go away on these after good amount of burning in. My xb270HU was horrid i set fullscreen white back ground set brightness to 100 and left on for hours on end and by 3 days all back light even on right corner gone.
The heat evened out the panel layers were light was escaping.
People are too quick to judge and returning these without actually breaking them in.
Interesting. I will keep this in mind when I get mine!
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Hey guys does anyone know what monitors these are?


That looks like Dell? I can tell by frame. Exact same frame dersign as the one i have in my other room.
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