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I wholeheartedly agree with you mylilponey. People are returning it after using the monitor for not more than an hour. There are wide reports of Backlight Bleeding reducing and even completely disappearing after a few days on the XB270HU. Just go to the XB270HU Owners club and one will see plenty of before and after pictures. But the people here who've returned the monitor haven't even had it for two days.

I agree that we shouldn't accept faults on something that is priced so high, but listening to how hard some of these people are moaning gives off the impression that they are heavily biased. Just reading Benny89's story about how he returned 2 GPUs just because it didn't have a stable 50% overclock will tell you exactly how demanding they are.

I'm an Electrical & Computer Engineer, and for everybody bashing AUO, ffs there is a reason why they are the only ones making 144 hz IPS panels. This is something which has never been done before and the fact that they managed to do this is a milestone in itself. The technical details and manufacturing processes involved are undoubtedly incredibly expensive and complicated. No doubt a lot of research went into this, Before this, no IPS/PLS/VA panel could even do 76 hz without overclocks. And here comes a manufacturer who actually dared to offer the best of all worlds, and you guys are burning them at the steak even if you find the smallest amount of backlight bleed, something which occurs even in the high end LG IPS panel. There is a reason why LG and Samsung don't make 144 hz IPS panels. They literally can't! They're not willing to invest the R&D costs. And here is a company which is trying to offer everything that a gamer has asked for and this is what they're getting in return.

The XB270HU owners club was far better in comparison and wasn't loaded with so many spoiled brats. The people who returned it had legit cases of excessive BLB.


My XB27HU was not bad at all, small backlight bleed but minimal enough. The design was what got me to return it and get used pg278q. It'll hold me for few months u til X34 pricing go down, then I purchase that and sell my tn.

Samsung and LG are not coming into 144hz gsync not because they cant do it, but because market is small compared to mainstream market. If somehow everyone in the world become a 144hz gamer like how evryone in world has a TV in living room, samsung and lg will prabably make the best ones.
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As I wrote to @misiak previously- I didn't notice it. But I know @misiak has much better eye to it and is more sensitive to it. I put pure white, pink, violet, green and red background on my screen and couldn't really see any uniformity problem... frown.gif

At first I though that top is darker but when I sat more straight and place monitor lower it faded and it was uniform at least for me.

But don't take my words for 100%. I am guy who came from 10 years of using TNs straight to new IPS screens and in this topic was first time ever I learnt about uniformity, color/gamma shifting and pixel invertions issues that TN should have and that I never ever noticed by my own eyes.

Now I have pure white ground put on PG and honestly it seems pretty uniform to me.

Oh okay, thank you! I think I'm going to wait a month or two and try the lottery myself.. I live in the United States.
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My XB27HU was not bad at all, small backlight bleed but minimal enough. The design was what got me to return it and get used pg278q. It'll hold me for few months u til X34 pricing go down, then I purchase that and sell my tn.

Samsung and LG are not coming into 144hz gsync not because they cant do it, but because market is small compared to mainstream market. If somehow everyone in the world become a 144hz gamer like how evryone in world has a TV in living room, samsung and lg will prabably make the best ones.

Well, LG came with 100Hz G-Sync 34" panels for X34 and upcoming PG34 so I guess they started to see good business in gaming monitors. I hope they will eventually move to IPS 144Hz panels to cut AUO off.

The only reason AUO is not making perfect panels is that the do not have competition.
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The LG panels are rated for 60Hz, they are factory overclocked.
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The LG panels are rated for 60Hz, they are factory overclocked.

True. But in the end we have result of 100Hz LG panels. So of LG sees good business in this they may want to move into it. Would be really really nice to see it...

Anyway- we should get new XBs in November, right?
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LG sells 60Hz panels to Acer/Asus, they don't care what they do with those panels.
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Well, LG came with 100Hz G-Sync 34" panels for X34 and upcoming PG34 so I guess they started to see good business in gaming monitors. I hope they will eventually move to IPS 144Hz panels to cut AUO off.

The only reason AUO is not making perfect panels is that the do not have competition.


I do hope they see business in the gaming market. I mean they already know how to do 240hz on 50inch+ T.Vs, they know to reduce blur "game mode" in TV that I have read works pretty well in both cases. I just don't know why there isn't "World first 240hz Gsync Samsung IPS 27inch monitor". I mean everything else they are first as far as technology goes I think. Samsung world's IPS, LG with OLED. I think it's really that gamers are just small fraction or that AUO is bigger than we'd like to think.
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Can you stop with the personal ad hominem attack abuse? NO ONE CARES if someone returned a video card because it didn't overclock. Either take it to the video card section or go post in off topic or take it to private messages.
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I checked last time when you asked and I didn't notice any uniformity issues with my PGs. I may not be that senstive to it as you, but I was trying different backgrounds (violet, pink, green, red) and didn't notice it. I don't know If I do something wrong but I just didn't notice it.

The only other things I could say- if you are not 100% sure- dont keep it. If you find something distracting now it will always distract you later. At least that is for me.
First one was MSI 980 Ti Gaming and it coudln't go above 1490 on clock. Return. Next one was EVGA Classified 980Ti- I did 1500 but temps where too hight (although not as much as MSI). Finally I got 980 Ti Gigabyte G1 and I am now on 1520 stable on air (can go up to 1535 with max OV) with great temps max 74 on 1440p in Witcher 3. So yeah, I play a lottery to get best what I pay for smile.gif 100% satisfied with my 980 Ti now.

Just make a test. What windows version do you have ? If you have windows 10, then click my computer and start moving the window from top to bottom and back. You should see how the white slightly change the tint. It depends on color temperature but on warm is reddish.

Or better install passmark monitor test and put white background on and check if top part is darker. For me it is like there is 30% difference in brightness which is visible.

Damn, if PG279Q does not have this issue, I would keep it. But this is no way :-( I like the design so much, but for me quality is more prio.
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Back light bleed will most likely go away on these after good amount of burning in. My xb270HU was horrid i set fullscreen white back ground set brightness to 100 and left on for hours on end and by 3 days all back light even on right corner gone.
The heat evened out the panel layers were light was escaping.
People are too quick to judge and returning these without actually breaking them in.

I really doubt this will help reduce the bleed but I can give it a try. Nothing to lose.I have problem only with right corner where I can see bleed. If I twist the frame inside, it disappear so there must be some design flaw.
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Just make a test. What windows version do you have ? If you have windows 10, then click my computer and start moving the window from top to bottom and back. You should see how the white slightly change the tint. It depends on color temperature but on warm is reddish.

Or better install passmark monitor test and put white background on and check if top part is darker. For me it is like there is 30% difference in brightness which is visible.

Damn, if PG279Q does not have this issue, I would keep it. But this is no way :-( I like the design so much, but for me quality is more prio.
I really doubt this will help reduce the bleed but I can give it a try. Nothing to lose.I have problem only with right corner where I can see bleed. If I twist the frame inside, it disappear so there must be some design flaw.
can someone post bleeding before and after warmup?
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