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Originally Posted by misiak View Post

Yes, it's crazy. You don't have any issues with your Acer ? No BLB, extensive glow, stuck/dead pixels ? I were counting my and I had at least 10! green pixels on a black backroad and found at least one dead. It's absolutely not visible from normal distance but I don't what to think. Seems to me damn much...

No backlight bleeding on mine. There is the usual bottom right corner IPS glow that pretty much everyone has, but is not extremely excessive to compared to other people's I've seen and in my room's lighting it's basically impossible to notice unless I turn off all the lights and play in total darkness. I checked for defective pixels using fully red,blue,green,white, and black backgrounds and couldn't find any so either it's not there or I am simply just not trying hard enough, but I'll take either. smile.gif
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post #4192 of 9407
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From reading this whole topic you can get the idea that people here care more about corners of the monitor more then games, I can't get how can you be distracted by a tiny bleed in the corner if you actually play something competitive online.. Maybe you just not gamer and you shouldn't get a high refresh monitor in the first place.. Get a 60hz perfect monitor and be happy.

Some people are being way to picky on this in the past gamer screens where much worse and it's clear these monitors aren't perfect so don't buy one "to play lottery" buy to play games.
Why don't you just let everyone decide for themselves how they play games? There is a world outside of call of duty or LoL or whatever it is you play competitively you know. The issues people are complaining about here mostly affect singleplayer games, especially dark ones that are not necessarily about fast action.
post #4193 of 9407
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Originally Posted by Pereb View Post

I'm not talking about glow or bleed, but the yellow tint you're describing. I had this with two monitors (XB270HU and PG279Q), but on the left side of the monitor instead of the top (and by that I mean the entire left side, so about half of the screen). It's absolutely atrocious, it produces a color shift effect on both bright and dark colors. If those panels have color shift similar to TN AND terrible glow/bleed there's literally no point in buying these over a TN panel.
If I see that a third time with my next PG279Q I'll get a S2716DG (as much as I'd rather avoid TN) and a 27" 1080p VA or IPS as secondary monitor. That'll cost about the same as a PG279Q alone and most likely will give better results. I wanted a single monitor for everything but it looks like that won't be an option. Even now I'm debating cancelling my PG279Q order and save myself the potential hassle.

Ah sorry, didn't understand you. Then this is not very encouraging... This side variance is typical for TN but should not be with IPS. Seems like they inherited some "features" from TN brothers. Damn, so it may vary piece to piece. You right, TN would be better but it should not be like that. I have XB270 as well and uniformity is fully acceptable. Almost perfect I would say. Slight variance but not intrusive as with Asus.

1080p is to low man, especially with 27" - don't buy it. Tried it once and it was disaster. With 1440p games look fantastic. Cannot be compared with 1080p even with applying some antialiasing method.
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I'm just curious why a "premium" product is using edge back lighting. My ips screen doesn't have the blackest blacks, but the lighting is perfectly even and there is no yellow or any other colors in the corners. But it isn't edge lit or even led lit.

What panel do you have ?
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From reading this whole topic you can get the idea that people here care more about corners of the monitor more then games, I can't get how can you be distracted by a tiny bleed in the corner if you actually play something competitive online.. Maybe you just not gamer and you shouldn't get a high refresh monitor in the first place.. Get a 60hz perfect monitor and be happy.

Some people are being way to picky on this in the past gamer screens where much worse and it's clear these monitors aren't perfect so don't buy one "to play lottery" buy to play games.

This is not only for competitive but enthusiast as well. For competitive players, TN is better anyway. BLB is not acceptable, it's a defect so we can't just accept it. Same with dead/stuck pixels. But as I said, competitive players do not care, but enthusiast does. And some of us buy this monitor also for work, not only gaming.
post #4194 of 9407
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No backlight bleeding on mine. There is the usual bottom right corner IPS glow that pretty much everyone has, but is not extremely excessive to compared to other people's I've seen and in my room's lighting it's basically impossible to notice unless I turn off all the lights and play in total darkness. I checked for defective pixels using fully red,blue,green,white, and black backgrounds and couldn't find any so either it's not there or I am simply just not trying hard enough, but I'll take either. smile.gif

And your glow is yellowish or silverfish ? You have to be really lucky.
post #4195 of 9407
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No, it won't help with BLB. I would say it can make even worse how the materials stretch more light can leak... See how Benny's was. At the beginning it was a keeper but then bleed developed. I asuume it is because heat. But I will see, have monitor on all day today... so far no change...

It's right that the amount of glow is pretty acceptable. It's far better then on my LG IPS 23" screen. But there is one bigger problem, at least with my sample, but already HEXUS mention this problem. It's luminance issue where top part of the screen is darker then the center point up to 28% which is unfortunately pretty visible on white solid backgrounds. Especially Windows 10 and during browsing. I found it quiet annoying here. Don't know if this is problem only in first batch (I have September 2015). Benny who has October 2015 did not notice it so far but he will do some tests.

This is video I've captured, you can see the reply window at bottom is pure white, while if I scroll at the top it changes it's brightness and has yellowish/reddish tint. XB270HU does not have this issue.

This is the problem HEXUS described:

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/monitors/87242-asus-rog-swift-pg279q/?page=3

That looks just like what a TN panel would do.
Yet this isn't a TN panel............is it?

What happens if you move to the left and to the right of the monitor?
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post #4196 of 9407
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That looks just like what a TN panel would do.
Yet this isn't a TN panel............is it?

What happens if you move to the left and to the right of the monitor?

Sure it isn't, it's an IPS panel. I know TN suffer from this but I would not think it can be issue with IPS screen. The deviance is 30% which is pretty drastic. My old LG has up to 10% and it is uniform like hell. This was the main reason I've returned PG278Q! If I move left/right everything is fine...

I still waiting for Benny to test his October model, this could give us some hope.
post #4197 of 9407
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Did you have any change to check that uniformity issue ? Very curious on results, best if you can take same video as me so we can compare... Thx

Hey misiak, I just did this test with reply window that you mentioned and yes I can see that top is not as pure white but is very very small difference. White at top just a little bit darker but not enough that I would ever notice without you wanting me to test it.

There is no yellowish/reddish tint in it. White is just not as bright as at bottom.
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post #4198 of 9407
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From reading this whole topic you can get the idea that people here care more about corners of the monitor more then games, I can't get how can you be distracted by a tiny bleed in the corner if you actually play something competitive online.. Maybe you just not gamer and you shouldn't get a high refresh monitor in the first place.. Get a 60hz perfect monitor and be happy.

Some people are being way to picky on this in the past gamer screens where much worse and it's clear these monitors aren't perfect so don't buy one "to play lottery" buy to play games.


It is distracting and annoying when you have bleed. I had FG2421 that had backlight bleed and whenever I play dark games with black backround like Alien Isolation the parts where there is much black backround it looks like some of the whole picture parts are missing. Those missing picture parts look shiny and reflective like you can see your own face from it like a mirror and this at nighttime. You can't relax and enjoy picture. Considering this was only reason why I go VA over TN at the time it was RMA for me.
Edited by Searchofsub - 11/7/15 at 3:13pm
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Hey misiak, I just did this test with reply window that you mentioned and yes I can see that top is not as pure white but is very very small difference. White at top just a little bit darker but not enough that I would ever notice without you wanting me to test it.

There is no yellowish/reddish tint in it. White is just not as bright as at bottom.

Thx for test. I also have top a bit darker on my XB270HU but it's very little difference, it's not yellowish as you could see in my video and it is not intrusive like PG279Q. Did you see that video ? I think yours is not like that at all. This difference is normal if up to 20%. Still don't know what to do. I'm pretty fine with Acer but I like overal build quality of Asus much more. Also all those stuck pixel makes me a bit worry, ten is pretty much. Nevertheless they don't bother me as I can't see them with naked eye. Need to decide within a week damn.
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It is distracting and annoying when you have bleed. I had FG2421 that had backlight bleed and whenever I play dark games with black backround like Alien Isolation the parts where there is much black backround it looks like some of the whole picture parts are missing. Those missing picture parts look shiny and reflective like you can see your own face from it like a mirror and this at nighttime. You can't relax and enjoy picture. Considering this was only reason why I go VA over TN at the time it was RMA for me.

Yes, BLB and dead pixels are defects and can be avoided if QC is good enough. You may have great 1440p IPS screen for 300 eur, add maybe 200 for g-sync module so what we are paying the extra 400 eur for ? For bleed and dead pixels ? No thanks... This is premium product, a flagship. It must have top notch quality. Period.
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You may have great 1440p IPS screen for 300 eur, add maybe 200 for g-sync module so what we are paying the extra 400 eur for ? For bleed and dead pixels ? No thanks... This is premium product, a flagship. It must have top notch quality. Period.

You are paying for 144(-165) Hz combined with IPS (AHVA), as long as only one company can make such a panel, prices will be high.
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