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post #7891 of 9409
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Originally Posted by Diversion View Post

What FPS counter? I don't think there's one built into the actual display.. sounds like you're using software to give you FPS for games.. The monitor will only tell you what resolution and Hz it's currently running at.

There is a so-called FPS counter on this monitor. All it does is tell you the refresh rate of the monitor when running G-SYNC. Which should of course match the FPS in most cases.
post #7892 of 9409
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Originally Posted by Diversion View Post

What FPS counter? I don't think there's one built into the actual display.. sounds like you're using software to give you FPS for games.. The monitor will only tell you what resolution and Hz it's currently running at.

The PG279Q has an FPS counter. Built-in, by hardware, as far as I know. I have it on all the time because I don't find it annoying and am curious about the FPS I'm getting in games and when it drops. In the desktop is always showing 165 (or whatever frequency you have the monitor on)

I could almost swear that when I turn G-Sync off (LED goes white), the FPS counter still works. So I don't think it is related to G-Sync at all. But it's been a while since I tested GS on/off... gotta try it again.

Anyway, I really like this feature...

The crosshair and timer, I haven't found useful. Maybe other users do.
post #7893 of 9409
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Originally Posted by karlahoin View Post

The PG279Q has an FPS counter. Built-in, by hardware, as far as I know. I have it on all the time because I don't find it annoying and am curious about the FPS I'm getting in games and when it drops. In the desktop is always showing 165 (or whatever frequency you have the monitor on)

I could almost swear that when I turn G-Sync off (LED goes white), the FPS counter still works. So I don't think it is related to G-Sync at all. But it's been a while since I tested GS on/off... gotta try it again.

Anyway, I really like this feature...

The crosshair and timer, I haven't found useful. Maybe other users do.
My personal preference is FRAPS. Great fps counter software smile.gif
post #7894 of 9409
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Originally Posted by karlahoin View Post

The PG279Q has an FPS counter. Built-in, by hardware, as far as I know. I have it on all the time because I don't find it annoying and am curious about the FPS I'm getting in games and when it drops. In the desktop is always showing 165 (or whatever frequency you have the monitor on)

I could almost swear that when I turn G-Sync off (LED goes white), the FPS counter still works. So I don't think it is related to G-Sync at all. But it's been a while since I tested GS on/off... gotta try it again.

Anyway, I really like this feature...

The crosshair and timer, I haven't found useful. Maybe other users do.

Well I certainly didn't know it had an actual FPS (not Hz) counter built into the hardware.. i'll have to go home and try it out.. I don't remember seeing it in the options.. Thanks for the info!
post #7895 of 9409
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Originally Posted by Diversion View Post

Well I certainly didn't know it had an actual FPS (not Hz) counter built into the hardware.. i'll have to go home and try it out.. I don't remember seeing it in the options.. Thanks for the info!

It doesn't. See my post above. There is no way for the monitor to 'know' what FPS the GPU is outputting. All it knows is its own refresh rate!
post #7896 of 9409
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Originally Posted by PCM2 View Post

It doesn't. See my post above. There is no way for the monitor to 'know' what FPS the GPU is outputting. All it knows is its own refresh rate!

Not sure what you mean there. The feature is actually called "FPS Counter" and is in the "GamePlus" section of the OSD on the monitor. Asus marketing material mentions "the FPS (frames per second) counter lets you know how smooth the game is running."

Now if that is accurate or not (especially with G-Sync off, perhaps it is indeed stuck at the frequency) is debatable.

From the games I tried, it is indeed accurate. Last one I remember comparing was Asseto Corsa, which has built-in FPS. The numbers match pretty well. Other users came up with similar conclusions, for example, comparing FRAPS numbers with the Asus counter.

FRAPS is nice, but at this time, the built-in counter made it redundant for me. Less software to run.
Edited by karlahoin - 2/10/16 at 12:59pm
post #7897 of 9409
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Originally Posted by karlahoin View Post

Not sure what you mean there. The feature is actually called "FPS Counter" and is in the Gamer section of the OSD on the monitor. Asus marketing material mentions "the FPS (frames per second) counter lets you know how smooth the game is running."

Now if that is accurate or not (especially with G-Sync off, perhaps it is indeed stuck at the frequency) is debatable.

From the games I tried, it is indeed accurate. Last one I remember comparing was Asseto Corsa, which has built-in FPS. The numbers match pretty well. Other users came up with similar conclusions. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcHkxYRJ8vo

FRAPS is nice, but at this time, I'm fine with the convenience of the built-in counter, plus less software to run.

You should test it again without G-SYNC. I am well aware of how this feature works from testing other ASUS models with this feature and know the limitations. It is a refresh rate counter, not an FPS counter - they can of course call it FPS counter because it is, as long as G-SYNC is active. Unless ASUS have done some strange wizardry on the PG279Q but none of the other models that share the feature, it will not work correctly without G-SYNC.

P.S. Maybe you should read the description of the video you just posted - "After an hours testing on various games I have come to the conclusion that the counter built into the monitor is accurate.... until you switch G-Sync OFF"
post #7898 of 9409
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Originally Posted by PCM2 View Post

You should test it again without G-SYNC. I am well aware of how this feature works from testing other ASUS models with this feature and know the limitations. It is a refresh rate counter, not an FPS counter - they can of course call it FPS counter because it is, as long as G-SYNC is active. Unless ASUS have done some strange wizardry on the PG279Q but none of the other models that share the feature, it will not work correctly without G-SYNC.

P.S. Maybe you should read the description of the video you just posted - "After an hours testing on various games I have come to the conclusion that the counter built into the monitor is accurate.... until you switch G-Sync OFF"

Yes, I used the video for the "is accurate" part. smile.gif Pity he only shows it with G-Sync off, so it's stuck at the refresh rate.

I believe you however, I probably had G-Sync on all the time back then and forgot.
But, from the FPS counter in games and the one on the monitor, it seemed pretty accurate to me. Not sure which is more accurate tho.... this is not a feature that reviewers focus on.

In any case, I find it a handy nice-to-have. biggrin.gif
post #7899 of 9409
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Originally Posted by PCM2 View Post

It doesn't. See my post above. There is no way for the monitor to 'know' what FPS the GPU is outputting. All it knows is its own refresh rate!

The fellow above seems to dispute this.. I also found a video of the FPS counter in action showing the FPS in action:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsmjZk_OtkA

Fraps on the left, Asus built-in on right.. is that not FPS? Hz cannot dynamic change like that.
post #7900 of 9409
Again... Did you actually read the description of the video you posted? So you actually understand exactly what is being shown. Because it reinforces what I've said. rolleyes.gif It is certainly accurate in that it tells you exactly what refresh rate the monitor is running at, but it relies on G-SYNC to operate. I have no idea what you mean by Hz cannot dynamically change like that. Do you know what G-SYNC is?! tongue.gif
Edited by PCM2 - 2/10/16 at 1:08pm
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