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I don't know if you own one of these, but it is definitely noticeable in-games and in movies. It all depends on the amount of bleed of course, because it's difficult to avoid a yellow/orange tint all over your lower wright corner. Had I had the amount of bleed I have in the top wright corner it'd be more than acceptable for instance.

Yeah I have one, its fine & love playing games on it. Bleed is worse than on other IPS panels I own(ed) esp the high end NEC ones, but that's why myself and many of us have more than one screen so you can use a different screen based on what you are going to use it for. Honestly, every panel has its pro and cons. Anyone that gets one now knows what he is buying if he does some research. If you dont like it, return it and buy something else (or better drive to a store & have them show the panel for you before taking it home like I did) but dont keep returning screens over and over hoping to win the lottery, that is just taking the piss.
    
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People returning this monitor for issues you wont notice during regular use, except if you are looking for them, just increase the price of this monitor for everyone else. Besides the environment, who do you think pays for all those returns? They are included in the cost of the monitor so other users are subsidizing your selfish behavior. You cant have it all, even if you pay $800. If you are looking for uniformity and colour reproduction get something like an Eizo CS270 or wait for Oled.

I am sorry but if you do not notice yellow bleeding in corners in movies or you do not notice stuck pixels in the middle of screen (stuck pixels have RGB colors) then you are blind, sorry. You can choose not to notice however. All those problems were very noticable for me, especially if they are in centre of screen.

Maybe you were lucky with BLB small enough not to see and you don't have dead or stuck pixels, but belive me 80% of people in this thread did not have as much luck as you had.

I learnt to accept normal BLB but yellowish glow or stuck/dead pixels are noticable.

You should speak for yourself, because for example my grandfather do not notice almost anything past 30 meters- it is not the same for all people, right?
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I am not sure if it's becuase i have the instant on feature enabled or not, but wheb i woke up this morning, to make it turn on, I had to unplug the power. Anyone else have this problem before?
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Yours looks similar to Tfts own review sample. http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/reviews/content/asus_rog_swift_pg279q.htm#uniformity

Enough. Why **** on the environment creating unnecessary emissions returning monitors over and over. It requires and burns fuel to do this, and for what? About 99.9% chance of getting the same or worse?
I'm not an enviro nazi, but this does piss me off at this point. It's premeditated ignorance. It's like dumping poison directly into a river because reality that's proven to you doesn't exist, and you hope for the magical unicorn. In other words because fk it that's why. It's not Asus at this point who is at fault. It's You. The product is what it is. Working as intended.

The experiment on this monitor has been done from the countless posts, images, videos and stories from people who have purchased them.
Every time i see someone say "i guess i'll play the panel lottery," I see a douchenozzle. Stop it. You are expecting something they are not offering.

If anyone buys one of these monitors at this point they should be forced to keep it. And if you don't research things before you spend hundreds of dollars. Double so. arrowheadsmiley.png
Expect this is what you will get, or don't buy them at all.

20/20
Mine appears to be far worse than TFT's review, with 60% of my screen falling outside of the 10% deviance from center range. And it annoys me greatly when Greenies on high horses post their opinions, on enthusiast tech sites, but I don't launch personal attacks on them. I had a legitimate question about my luminance findings and wanted to post, you know, in a forum and specific thread where people come to post and comment about tech. If you don't like it don't comment and don't insult me.

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This ^^^ thumb.gif

People returning this monitor for issues you wont notice during regular use, except if you are looking for them, just increase the price of this monitor for everyone else. Besides the environment, who do you think pays for all those returns? They are included in the cost of the monitor so other users are subsidizing your selfish behavior. You cant have it all, even if you pay $800. If you are looking for uniformity and colour reproduction get something like an Eizo CS270 or wait for Oled.

I do notice the brightness in daily use when using MS Office and white screens in general. Is it enough for me to return it, I don't know yet. I don't care about the BLB on mine. But if 60% of my screen falls outside the 10% deviation from central range that's pretty significant. Again another comment about the environment, man...you run an X99 rig with custom loop and 1200 watt PSU! At least replace your WD Black with a WD Green drive, if you're that concerned about the environment. tongue.gif It's all good.
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I am sorry but if you do not notice yellow bleeding in corners in movies or you do not notice stuck pixels in the middle of screen (stuck pixels have RGB colors) then you are blind, sorry. You can choose not to notice however. All those problems were very noticable for me, especially if they are in centre of screen.

Maybe you were lucky with BLB small enough not to see and you don't have dead or stuck pixels, but belive me 80% of people in this thread did not have as much luck as you had.

I learnt to accept normal BLB but yellowish glow or stuck/dead pixels are noticable.

You should speak for yourself, because for example my grandfather do not notice almost anything past 30 meters- it is not the same for all people, right?
Even TN got bleeding, its inherent and some people are more sensitive to it and some monitors do have more or less
Why ppl keep returning monitor until find the one, playing lottery?
That's the reason why Amazon dont really want to sell those gaming monitor or they would sell but at higher price tag because they know there are buyers who literally use period of withdrawal to return it and liquidate all stocks there
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Even TN got bleeding, its inherent and some people are more sensitive to it and some monitors do have more or less
Why ppl keep returning monitor until find the one, playing lottery?
That's the reason why Amazon dont really want to sell those gaming monitor or they would sell but at higher price tag because they know there are buyers who literally use period of withdrawal to return it and liquidate all stocks there

I have been on TN monitors my whole life. While I agree they CAN have (most do not or very very small) BLB it is NOWHERE near to what those new IPS gaming monitors have on AVERAGE. And worst ones are not even comparable by a long shot.

You can be sensitive to BLB, but those new monitors have them in amount of just making them look sometimes like a junk, not like a premium monitor.

I had 5 TN monitors in last 15 years- a let me sum it up- I even had no idea what BLB is until I received and bought one of those premiums gaming monitors last year.

So there is no comparison. PG278Q had sometimes quite visible BLB for TN monitor, but it was also, again "premium!".

I just hope both Asus and Acer will loose enough money to really make sure their next "premium" gaming monitors witll really be premium.
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G-Sync drives all you nuts
They (Nvidia) found a cushy number: G-Sync all the way
Dont expect high premium gaming monitor, it doesnt mean it should have G-Sync
You can live without G-Sync
They locked market into G-Sync/gaming monitors and others (toward main users)
Meaning unless to get those korean ips monitors 120 hz, there is no 120/144 hz IPS monitor on the grid
The high price tag has nothing to do with manufacturer qc
-> price increases because of G-Sync and whole gaming marketing
Everything with gaming tag, is raising the cost
Keyboard, mice, screen monitor...
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Mine appears to be far worse than TFT's review, with 60% of my screen falling outside of the 10% deviance from center range. And it annoys me greatly when Greenies on high horses post their opinions, on enthusiast tech sites, but I don't launch personal attacks on them. I had a legitimate question about my luminance findings and wanted to post, you know, in a forum and specific thread where people come to post and comment about tech. If you don't like it don't comment and don't insult me.
I do notice the brightness in daily use when using MS Office and white screens in general. Is it enough for me to return it, I don't know yet. I don't care about the BLB on mine. But if 60% of my screen falls outside the 10% deviation from central range that's pretty significant.

Hi mate, my comments were never aimed at you but at those people who know that the screen has issues but still buy it knowing they will return it and try again if their screen isnt better than 95% of the screens out there. On another forum, was a guy asking for mechanical keyboard advice. Whether he should get black, red, blue switches. People advised him to order one of each and just return the ones he didn't like. This kind of behavior, whether it is screens, keyboard etc pisses me off.

As for your question, reviewers noticed the same. See below for the Prad.de review results. Full review here (in german) http://www.prad.de/new/monitore/test/2015/test-asus-pg279q-teil6.html

BRIGHTNESS UNIFORMITY


COLOUR HOMOGENEITY


Final results translated from German for you



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Again another comment about the environment, man...you run an X99 rig with custom loop and 1200 watt PSU! At least replace your WD Black with a WD Green drive, if you're that concerned about the environment. tongue.gif It's all good.

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Efnita- thanks a lot for that info. I re-calibrated my monitor with a target of 6600K, same uniformity results obviously but more of the screen is now closer to 6500K as a result. When I tried to calibrate toward a target of 6500K most of the screen was still too warm.
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Mine appears to be far worse than TFT's review, with 60% of my screen falling outside of the 10% deviance from center range. And it annoys me greatly when Greenies on high horses post their opinions, on enthusiast tech sites, but I don't launch personal attacks on them. I had a legitimate question about my luminance findings and wanted to post, you know, in a forum and specific thread where people come to post and comment about tech. If you don't like it don't comment and don't insult me.

I should a prefaced it with "no way to say it without sounding like a dick" . I do understand your frustration. I'm not insulting you per se. I am just pointing out you are insulting yourself. And it's more of a nudge to look at the overall situation, with some tough love in the mix, lol. I'm not a "greenie" really. But with statements like like " i guess i'll play the panel lottery", then you ( or anyone) have opened themselves up to ridicule at this point. Because it's selfish, and willful ignorance of the reality of the situation. You were ( as we have found to be the case) never guaranteed anything but what you got. The early adopters could have been under that assumption. If you were one of them. I am Sorry. I think people like that are aware of the risks, or should be anyway. But if you aren't happy, return it and be done with it. Again there are plenty of infos out there for you to have made an informed decision before you purchased the monitor, if you weren't an early adopter. There never as any guarantee that you would get a monitor without glow or bleed, nor uniformity issues.

I bought possibly the first and one of the most revered Ips gaming panels 10 years ago. It was good for what it was, but to me it blew goats. There was zero bleed, but the Ips glow was intolerable to me.
I never have bought an Ips lcd again. I re-sold it at a small loss and the buyer was happy as a clam. Lesson learned.

The other thing i see a lot of people saying Asus is going to be sorry with all these returns or lose money. Not really. If they sold direct, like Dell, yes. But once they leave the manufacturer to the distributor or retailer, generally the retailer owns them. Asus only sees units moved, and that's what their focus is on. It takes a mountain to get the ear of a manufacturer as big as one like Asus that is not a direct seller. They aren't like Tesla or Dell. http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/190460

The retailer while they will accept returns because they must by law, may have "some" contractual agreement with manufacturers or legal stance on catastrophic damages from faulty product, up to a point. They accept returns "reluctantly" depending on how big of an outfit they are. Amzn probably has more sway. Other retailers maybe not so much. But you can bet that retailers if they are smart, are not going to lose. They will sell open box at a profit still, or they will liquidate when new product arrives to re-sellers like ebay sellers who will sell them "as-is" at a profit still, ( overseas or out of country if they are smart making it harder for people to return them - and there will usually always be someone to buy it ) and they will direct you to the manufacturer at that point with your complaints.

The only person who is going to lose is you "and the environment" if you like a dummy keep taking it in the nuts over and over hoping for a miracle. Cost will be your time, frustration, money tied up with no acceptable monitor, and possibly some shipping cost. Up to having the retailer telling you they don't want your business.

Asus will chance warranty claims as people overwhelmingly just suck it. A few may make a stink and that is something they will deal with on a case to case basis. You might send it back only to get the same monitor with a working as intended - no problem found statement.

The best way to change it is to return them once and leave it at that, or not buy them at all. And maybe make a video or social media post on the subject.
But as long as Asus is moving units, they aren't going to change a thing. And since they can't keep them in stock, pretty sure they aren't much worried about it. Their ears would perk right up though if all of a sudden no one was buying their product that's for damn sure. I can guarantee you Asus is already working on this monitors replacement. Very doubtful they will change a single thing about the manufacturing of this specific panel from this point on. And if they can't keep these in stock today. You can expect the same results in the future. I also bought an Asus MOBO back in like 2001 or so and it was a total piece of crap. After trying to get support for it, i have never bought an Asus product again and never will. Now imagine if everyone did that.
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