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I should a prefaced it with "no way to say it without sounding like a dick" . I do understand your frustration. I'm not insulting you per se. I am just pointing out you are insulting yourself. And it's more of a nudge to look at the overall situation, with some tough love in the mix, lol. I'm not a "greenie" really. But with statements like like " i guess i'll play the panel lottery", then you ( or anyone) have opened themselves up to ridicule at this point. Because it's selfish, and willful ignorance of the reality of the situation. You were ( as we have found to be the case) never guaranteed anything but what you got. The early adopters could have been under that assumption. If you were one of them. I am Sorry. I think people like that are aware of the risks, or should be anyway. But if you aren't happy, return it and be done with it. Again there are plenty of infos out there for you to have made an informed decision before you purchased the monitor, if you weren't an early adopter. There never as any guarantee that you would get a monitor without glow or bleed, nor uniformity issues.

I bought possibly the first and one of the most revered Ips gaming panels 10 years ago. It was good for what it was, but to me it blew goats. There was zero bleed, but the Ips glow was intolerable to me.
I never have bought an Ips lcd again. I re-sold it at a small loss and the buyer was happy as a clam. Lesson learned.

The other thing i see a lot of people saying Asus is going to be sorry with all these returns or lose money. Not really. If they sold direct, like Dell, yes. But once they leave the manufacturer to the distributor or retailer, generally the retailer owns them. Asus only sees units moved, and that's what their focus is on. It takes a mountain to get the ear of a manufacturer as big as one like Asus that is not a direct seller. They aren't like Tesla or Dell. http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/190460

The retailer while they will accept returns because they must by law, may have "some" contractual agreement with manufacturers or legal stance on catastrophic damages from faulty product, up to a point. They accept returns "reluctantly" depending on how big of an outfit they are. Amzn probably has more sway. Other retailers maybe not so much. But you can bet that retailers if they are smart, are not going to lose. They will sell open box at a profit still, or they will liquidate when new product arrives to re-sellers like ebay sellers who will sell them "as-is" at a profit still, ( overseas or out of country if they are smart making it harder for people to return them - and there will usually always be someone to buy it ) and they will direct you to the manufacturer at that point with your complaints.

The only person who is going to lose is you "and the environment" if you like a dummy keep taking it in the nuts over and over hoping for a miracle. Cost will be your time, frustration, money tied up with no acceptable monitor, and possibly some shipping cost. Up to having the retailer telling you they don't want your business.

Asus will chance warranty claims as people overwhelmingly just suck it. A few may make a stink and that is something they will deal with on a case to case basis. You might send it back only to get the same monitor with a working as intended - no problem found statement.

The best way to change it is to return them once and leave it at that, or not buy them at all. And maybe make a video or social media post on the subject.
But as long as Asus is moving units, they aren't going to change a thing. And since they can't keep them in stock, pretty sure they aren't much worried about it. Their ears would perk right up though if all of a sudden no one was buying their product that's for damn sure. I can guarantee you Asus is already working on this monitors replacement. Very doubtful they will change a single thing about the manufacturing of this specific panel from this point on. And if they can't keep these in stock today. You can expect the same results in the future. I also bought an Asus MOBO back in like 2001 or so and it was a total piece of crap. After trying to get support for it, i have never bought an Asus product again and never will. Now imagine if everyone did that.

Well said! To give ASUS credit though, their motherboards have the least failure rate compared to their competitors.

I read about one person who had 7 x ROG Swift PG278Q with dead pixels in a row. Surely that's some super bad luck right? Well it turns out he bought all of the monitors on sale only, which doesn't surprise me that he got faulty models. A lot of the dealers will sell their semi-defective hardware on sale at a bargain, failing to describe the product actually has defects. I've seen this happen again and again with nordic retailers. Those slick bastards do this all the time...
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The retailer while they will accept returns because they must by law, may have "some" contractual agreement with manufacturers or legal stance on catastrophic damages from faulty product, up to a point. They accept returns "reluctantly" depending on how big of an outfit they are. Amzn probably has more sway. Other retailers maybe not so much. But you can bet that retailers if they are smart, are not going to lose. They will sell open box at a profit still, or they will liquidate when new product arrives to re-sellers like ebay sellers who will sell them "as-is" at a profit still, ( overseas or out of country if they are smart making it harder for people to return them - and there will usually always be someone to buy it ) and they will direct you to the manufacturer at that point with your complaints.

The only person who is going to lose is you "and the environment" if you like a dummy keep taking it in the nuts over and over hoping for a miracle. Cost will be your time, frustration, money tied up with no acceptable monitor, and possibly some shipping cost. Up to having the retailer telling you they don't want your business.

Well said. Also, any 'return guarantees' beyond the one they are legally obliged to provide offered by large retailers are not there to benefit the consumer (just like 'lowest price guarantees'). You might think they are a great thing, but they are actually anti-competitive measures that hurt smaller retailers and brick-n-mortars who aren't able to match these offers and who are guaranteed to be undercut whenever they try to sell the product at a lower price than the one charged by the mass retailer, thereby increasing prices for all of us.
    
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I should a prefaced it with "no way to say it without sounding like a dick" . I do understand your frustration. I'm not insulting you per se. I am just pointing out you are insulting yourself. And it's more of a nudge to look at the overall situation, with some tough love in the mix, lol. I'm not a "greenie" really. But with statements like like " i guess i'll play the panel lottery", then you ( or anyone) have opened themselves up to ridicule at this point. Because it's selfish, and willful ignorance of the reality of the situation. You were ( as we have found to be the case) never guaranteed anything but what you got. The early adopters could have been under that assumption. If you were one of them. I am Sorry. I think people like that are aware of the risks, or should be anyway. But if you aren't happy, return it and be done with it. Again there are plenty of infos out there for you to have made an informed decision before you purchased the monitor, if you weren't an early adopter. There never as any guarantee that you would get a monitor without glow or bleed, nor uniformity issues.

I bought possibly the first and one of the most revered Ips gaming panels 10 years ago. It was good for what it was, but to me it blew goats. There was zero bleed, but the Ips glow was intolerable to me.
I never have bought an Ips lcd again. I re-sold it at a small loss and the buyer was happy as a clam. Lesson learned.

The other thing i see a lot of people saying Asus is going to be sorry with all these returns or lose money. Not really. If they sold direct, like Dell, yes. But once they leave the manufacturer to the distributor or retailer, generally the retailer owns them. Asus only sees units moved, and that's what their focus is on. It takes a mountain to get the ear of a manufacturer as big as one like Asus that is not a direct seller. They aren't like Tesla or Dell. http://www.entrepreneur.com/article/190460

The retailer while they will accept returns because they must by law, may have "some" contractual agreement with manufacturers or legal stance on catastrophic damages from faulty product, up to a point. They accept returns "reluctantly" depending on how big of an outfit they are. Amzn probably has more sway. Other retailers maybe not so much. But you can bet that retailers if they are smart, are not going to lose. They will sell open box at a profit still, or they will liquidate when new product arrives to re-sellers like ebay sellers who will sell them "as-is" at a profit still, ( overseas or out of country if they are smart making it harder for people to return them - and there will usually always be someone to buy it ) and they will direct you to the manufacturer at that point with your complaints.

The only person who is going to lose is you "and the environment" if you like a dummy keep taking it in the nuts over and over hoping for a miracle. Cost will be your time, frustration, money tied up with no acceptable monitor, and possibly some shipping cost. Up to having the retailer telling you they don't want your business.

Asus will chance warranty claims as people overwhelmingly just suck it. A few may make a stink and that is something they will deal with on a case to case basis. You might send it back only to get the same monitor with a working as intended - no problem found statement.

The best way to change it is to return them once and leave it at that, or not buy them at all. And maybe make a video or social media post on the subject.
But as long as Asus is moving units, they aren't going to change a thing. And since they can't keep them in stock, pretty sure they aren't much worried about it. Their ears would perk right up though if all of a sudden no one was buying their product that's for damn sure. I can guarantee you Asus is already working on this monitors replacement. Very doubtful they will change a single thing about the manufacturing of this specific panel from this point on. And if they can't keep these in stock today. You can expect the same results in the future. I also bought an Asus MOBO back in like 2001 or so and it was a total piece of crap. After trying to get support for it, i have never bought an Asus product again and never will. Now imagine if everyone did that.
Well said. I've just had bad luck and don't expect perfection. BLB is fine with me as long as I can't see it in normal viewing. Pixel defects and uniformity defects are much harder to swallow. No review thus far led me to believe that only 40% of my panel would be within acceptable range in terms of luminance. That's unexpected.

I decided to try the Asus again at the recommendation of the people at the store who discouraged me from trying another Acer. Each store's policies vary I'm sure. I've asked them what happens when I return a defective monitor and was told that the ones with dust / pixels defects, etc. get sent back to the manufacturer and not re-sold. I always ask them to please stop me from exchanging if it will harm the store or if it is excessive and each time the employees agree with me and have no problem with me "trying again." Granted, this may change if I keep on exchanging which I don't plan on doing. All I want is a fairly uniform panel with average BLB and no pixel defects. And I know they exist, that's the problem. Overall I am 60 / 40 on keeping the monitor vs returning once and for all.
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hey guys, just purchased this monitor from microcenter. seems like a got a pretty good unit. i see very minimal BLB... no dead pixels, no dust etc. are there legit measures other than eyeballing everything to make sure the monitor is a tip top unit? is there any calibration that needs to be done? .... thanks
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hey guys, just purchased this monitor from microcenter. seems like a got a pretty good unit. i see very minimal BLB... no dead pixels, no dust etc. are there legit measures other than eyeballing everything to make sure the monitor is a tip top unit? is there any calibration that needs to be done? .... thanks
If it looks good to you then don't go looking for other flaws. Keep it simple and enjoy it. If you don't use a colorimeter for calibration you can adjust the OSD on the monitor to your liking through the Windows calibration utility. There's no calibration that "needs to be done" it is all personal preference.
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I got my fifth screen. Now I have two dead pixel and something not clear white box.
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Can you guys please look at the video I made and tell me if any of you guys have this strange issue with your PG279Q? basically every several Alt+Tab that I do, it makes the screen currpoted in a way that it takes about 1cm of the middle of the display and puts it on the left of the screen, I went through 4 PG279Q, 3 XB271HU and 3-4 display port cables and results were the same , only way to fix is turn off the monitor and turn it back on and its fixed till next time.



    
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I recommend everybody checks that their ULMB mode is working properly at 120Hz. On my display the screen goes black as soon as OSD closes, opening OSD returns image.

Here are some other people experiencing the same issue:
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?82357-Swift-PG279Q-ULMB/page2
http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2724
http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2730
Edited by Bercon - 3/3/16 at 9:04am
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I recommend everybody checks that their ULMB mode is working properly at 120Hz. On my display the screen goes black as soon as OSD closes, opening OSD returns image.

Here are some other people experiencing the same issue:
https://rog.asus.com/forum/showthread.php?82357-Swift-PG279Q-ULMB/page2
http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2724
http://forums.blurbusters.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=2730
yeah.. also got this. Posted it here:
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I got the following problem:
If I enable ulmb (in the driver and in the osd) and i close the osd, I just get a dark screen. I mean not darker, like when ulmb is enabled, more like no backlight at all.
What is my problem? Do I have to do something else?
but ulmb seems to work if you just wait until the osd closes itself.
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Not for me, everything goes black as soon as the OSD closes, be that by waiting or closing it manually.
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