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post #8521 of 9400
Having tried best TN ever (PG278Q panel) I can conclude that yes, in 99% of games horizontal angles don't present an issue.
Actually, even PG278Q colors are impressive enough that you don't really have a problem.
I've compared it to a 100% sRGB professional calibrated display and it really doesn't have to be shy since is pretty much acceptable for average usage.

What is not acceptable at all are vertical angles. TN, even this 8-bit super quality one, are awful to look at in certain conditions.
Contrast shift depending on the height of your eye level compared to what you're looking at on the screen is awful. Your eyes need to be at exactly the 90 deg perpendicular to the part of the screen you need, to view it correctly.
Also, it is almost invisible with dark background and white text and foreground, but extremely visible and annoying with light backgrounds and dark foreground or text making web surfing annoyingly impossible.

In most games this doesn't have an impact at all.
If you're keeping the screen as a side one for gaming only you're safe from TN horrors for probably 99% of usage.
If you're going to use it for anything else, I suggest avoidance.
Edited by toncij - 7/16/16 at 9:25pm
post #8522 of 9400
agreed, vertical angles are horrible on TN

I sit straight in front and I see it shifting still (vertical)


never ever going back to TN

VA also has it faults, like IPS, its not better than IPS


OLED can be good in a few years
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Second time is a charm. Perfect panel. No dead pixels. 165 Hz is awesome. Can't believe I was feeling OK w/ 100 Hz on the PG348Q.
This panel is amazing. Also much better than the XB271HU I had. Both ASUS panels I tried were better than ACER crap.
post #8524 of 9400
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Second time is a charm. Perfect panel. No dead pixels. 165 Hz is awesome. Can't believe I was feeling OK w/ 100 Hz on the PG348Q.
This panel is amazing. Also much better than the XB271HU I had. Both ASUS panels I tried were better than ACER crap.

Is there really a significant difference?


Also, OLED could be great in some years, but right now input lag/latency iirc is way too high.


ALSO ALSO, fwiw I bought my panel the other day in store at Tsukumo here in Sapporo, Japan and it is perfect. No dead pixels or uneven bleeding. I didn't see any QC stickers that people were mentioning here.
Edited by Anoxy - 7/17/16 at 5:37am
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I recently bought the PG279Q and it's been wonderful so far. However, there is a little thing that annoys me. Whenever my display goes to sleep, I hear the Usb disconnect sound, and then when I wake it up, I hear the USB plug-in sound and the message "Click here to configure gsync" appears.

Does anyone know how to avoid this? Is it maybe related to display port deep sleep?
post #8526 of 9400
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Originally Posted by toncij View Post

Having tried best TN ever (PG278Q panel) I can conclude that yes, in 99% of games horizontal angles don't present an issue.
Actually, even PG278Q colors are impressive enough that you don't really have a problem.
I've compared it to a 100% sRGB professional calibrated display and it really doesn't have to be shy since is pretty much acceptable for average usage.

What is not acceptable at all are vertical angles. TN, even this 8-bit super quality one, are awful to look at in certain conditions.
Contrast shift depending on the height of your eye level compared to what you're looking at on the screen is awful. Your eyes need to be at exactly the 90 deg perpendicular to the part of the screen you need, to view it correctly.
Also, it is almost invisible with dark background and white text and foreground, but extremely visible and annoying with light backgrounds and dark foreground or text making web surfing annoyingly impossible.

In most games this doesn't have an impact at all.
If you're keeping the screen as a side one for gaming only you're safe from TN horrors for probably 99% of usage.
If you're going to use it for anything else, I suggest avoidance.

Well said ... +R thumb.gif

But you forgot to also mention the Matte coating on the PG278Q is ATROCIOUS! Completely unacceptable for true panel PQ aficionados. I've had the PG278Q AND the PG279Q side by side with my LG and Samsung 1440p/IPS "Glossy" panels and they literally look like garbage even with decent uniformity samples ... add in the 2.5x$ premium, I just couldn't stomach it redface.gif

OLED is not that far off ... yes there are input lag issue's but man that picture ... from HERE biggrin.gif
 
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Well said ... +R thumb.gif

But you forgot to also mention the Matte coating on the PG278Q is ATROCIOUS! Completely unacceptable for true panel PQ aficionados. I've had the PG278Q AND the PG279Q side by side with my LG and Samsung 1440p/IPS "Glossy" panels and they literally look like garbage even with decent uniformity samples ... add in the 2.5x$ premium, I just couldn't stomach it redface.gif

OLED is not that far off ... yes there are input lag issue's but man that picture ... from HERE biggrin.gif

Yes, AG coating is also a bit on the worse side, but tbh, it didn't bother me that much in games. For games I'd go TN if I could get a good price. But since I use monitors for non-gaming 90% of the time, I simply can't digest TN.

OLED is too expensive for what it brings so far.
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May i ask where did you order it? I want to buy 4 of them but don't know where it should be recommended to order in the US. : /

Bought mine from New Zealand
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I'm seriously thinking of buying this monitor. In fact I already bought one together with the visual check before shipping (wee extra £) from one UK retailer. Decent price too.
I explained their sales rep. that this monitor is notorious for some common issues. Since I'm paying a little extra the guys were able to visually check all 15 units.
Got an email saying that unfortunately not one would qualify for my needs. Not a single monitor out of 15 would be classified as 'minor bleed / glow' but worse.

Does anyone know if some UK/EU retailers provide such a service before shipping the panel? Granted I could just buy it off of Amazon and send it back no question asked but with my luck (or the lack of) I don't feel lucky enough to receive a decent screen.

Or else I should look for the Acer counterpart. Which from what I've read isn't any better. I was also considering the PG278Q but since I won't be using my monitor only for gaming I think IPS is the way to go.

I'm about to be building my new PC and I cannot be without a monitor (currently on laptop) so waiting isn't an option.

Bought Asus MG279Q couple weeks ago as I first thought going with the red team but had to send it back due to the same issues. The backlight bleed in the bottom right corner was so distraction while watching movies and dealing with a dark content I almost cried.

I'd hope someone would be providing similar service to what SiliconLottery does with the CPUs. I'd pay extra for a peace of mind. If you know about any retailer within the EU that offers such a service please let me know.

Shame we pay premium price and get no premium products.
post #8530 of 9400
The Asus MG279Q has a problem with sharpness. Have they fixed it after ignoring customers complaint for so long?
You had luck with the shop. The shops I know don't check the issues professionally. They say they do but they don't. Never get what I ordered.
The Acer XB271HU has definitely a greater chance to be flawless.
As I ordered one for my wife the first one was a winner.
My PG279Q was very hard to find. I had to return so many of these until I was lucky...

But unfortunately there is no guarantee for any of this monitors to be perfect. You have to do your personal "try and error" game like everyone of us. frown.gif
Edited by Lahatiel - 7/17/16 at 4:47pm
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