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Because its marketed as a IPS panel I expect it to have a good luminance uniformity as well else colour reproduction would be off

Why? Look at every other 144Hz IPS panel out there right now....I've looked at reviews for almost all of them on TFTCentral. Do you see any with perfect uniformity? No? Then why are you expecting that?

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With this price one may expect they are using good quality parts.

And they are. The best available.
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What else do they need to specify? that the monitor has an on and off switch?
I know you're being facetious, but yes, the inclusion of a power button and its location is specified in the user manual.
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IPS stands for quality so I expect good quality which includes proper luminance uniformity and colour accuracy.

No, IPS stands for In Plane Switching, and in this case Advanced Hyper-Viewing Angle, which you can read about here.

And again, this is the first generation of these displays. AU Optronics literally just began releasing them in 2015.

The reviews were there for you to read and do your own research before buying. If you had done that, your expectations should have been adjusted accordingly.
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The reviews were there for you to read and do your own research before buying. If you had done that, your expectations should have been adjusted accordingly.

From all this I did learn one thing; First check amazon before you buy any monitor.

I'm used to work with a Dell Ultrasharp IPS screen so when another IPS screen comes to market I expected it to be flawless or at least be better then what I had. The Dell Ultrasharp is around 300 dollar new so a 850 dollar screen must be much better or at least be the same quality right?

I did do my research before buying.

Linus Tech Tips saying it is an awesome screen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ImK3WMBm4

Hardware.info (dutch) giving it the Ultimate reward:
https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/6435/12/asus-mg278q-mg279q-en-pg279q-review-drie-keer-144hz-wqhd-gaming-monitor-conclusie

The Tech Chap advising the PG279Q because its a great gaming and photo editing screen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79r5rxS276Y

And the list goes on and on.

But lets not fool each other. Do you expect this from a 850 dollar monitor? It is simple awful and unworkable from a photo editing or any design standpoint.

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Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post

Chances are, your macbook's display is glossy IPS. You're simply not going to find that kind of picture quality in a gaming monitor.

With that said, the closest you'll get is with the XB271HU and the PG279Q
IF you can get a unit with decent uniformity.

Hmm. Thats interesting. I think that I will just go with S2716DG because it is cheaper and you say that the color accuracy on those wont be as nice as my laptop anyway. I figure I will get a good gaming focused monitor for now and then when they get the hang of making OLED displays for monitors I will make the leap to 4K and nice picture quality at that point. Thanks for the reply!
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Originally Posted by XionaxLomax View Post

From all this I did learn one thing; First check amazon before you buy any monitor.

I'm used to work with a Dell Ultrasharp IPS screen so when another IPS screen comes to market I expected it to be flawless or at least be better then what I had. The Dell Ultrasharp is around 300 dollar new so a 850 dollar screen must be much better or at least be the same quality right?

I did do my research before buying.

Linus Tech Tips saying it is an awesome screen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3ImK3WMBm4

Hardware.info (dutch) giving it the Ultimate reward:
https://nl.hardware.info/reviews/6435/12/asus-mg278q-mg279q-en-pg279q-review-drie-keer-144hz-wqhd-gaming-monitor-conclusie

The Tech Chap advising the PG279Q because its a great gaming and photo editing screen:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79r5rxS276Y

And the list goes on and on.

But lets not fool each other. Do you expect this from a 850 dollar monitor? It is simple awful and unworkable from a photo editing or any design standpoint.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

Do those reviews say anything about the brightness and/or color uniformity? Linus usually reviews things in terms of gaming performance, and rarely goes into technical detail. And I'm unfamiliar with the other two websites. But in terms of gaming, which is what this monitor was designed for, there is no better.
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so when another IPS screen comes to market I expected it to be flawless or at least be better then what I had

Again, you're comparing apples to oranges here. This is a completely different panel than "other IPS screens"
It is brand new technology and should not be compared to your Dell.

I only trust TFTcentral.co.uk for monitor reviews, as they evaluate each monitor on the same exact points and go into adequate detail for each aspect. They even gave you a visual schematic of the panel's uniformity of luminance. While that can vary from panel to panel, what they show is fairly consistent with what people have been reporting in this thread.


One last question. Are you using any custom ICC profiles? Which preset are you using? Do you have blue light filter turned off? Did you adjust the color temperature?
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But lets not fool each other. Do you expect this from a 850 dollar monitor? It is simple awful and unworkable from a photo editing or any design standpoint

I'm not fooling anyone. I bought this monitor for gaming, and it's the best monitor I have ever used in that regard. I have a Dell Ultrasharp U3014 on the side if I need to do any super color accurate work, which I rarely do.

I mean, there's a reason Asus called it the "ROG Swift PG279Q Gaming monitor."

Read the webpage for the monitor. I don't see anything about claims for perfect uniformity intended for professional photographers.
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Do those reviews say anything about the brightness and/or color uniformity? Linus usually reviews things in terms of gaming performance, and rarely goes into technical detail. And I'm unfamiliar with the other two websites. But in terms of gaming, which is what this monitor was designed for, there is no better.

Again, you're comparing apples to oranges here. This is a completely different panel than "other IPS screens"
It is brand new technology and should not be compared to your Dell.

Prad.de gave the PG279Q the equivalent of a 1/5 score for color uniformity and a 2/5 for brightness uniformity. Their reviews are even more in-depth than TFTCentral.

Another russian review site found their sample had a deviation of more than 1000K, and here's a google translate about what they said about it :

"But about the uniformity of the color temperature so you will not tell. The range of values ​​is very large - more than 1000 Kelvin. This is a very low result for the monitor at any level, not to mention very expensive PG279Q. The color temperature increases downwards, the average deviation from the center point is 3.7% maximum - 8.8%. I want to believe that we were just very unlucky with the instance. Otherwise - a guard ..."

Just because these IPS panels run at higher refresh rates does not in any way make them an "entirely new technology". They are still IPS panels. Furthermore, people who buy IPS gaming monitors are obviously after a better picture quality, which this monitor does not provide due to the low quality of the panel. Might as well buy a TN...
Edited by Pereb - 8/19/16 at 8:49am
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Originally Posted by ToTheSun! View Post

Chances are, your macbook's display is glossy IPS. You're simply not going to find that kind of picture quality in a gaming monitor.

With that said, the closest you'll get is with the XB271HU and the PG279Q
IF you can get a unit with decent uniformity.

Hmm. Thats interesting. I think that I will just go with S2716DG because it is cheaper and you say that the color accuracy on those wont be as nice as my laptop anyway. I figure I will get a good gaming focused monitor for now and then when they get the hang of making OLED displays for monitors I will make the leap to 4K and nice picture quality at that point. Thanks for the reply!
It's not that a PG279Q will have worse color accuracy. It's just that macbook displays tend to have excellent uniformity, great viewing angles with little IPS glow, and a glossy display. There are some displays like that, but none is gaming oriented (144 Hz, etc).
    
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Ok after many research and RMA i finally got my hand 100% clean monitor. I found out that the newer manufactured date is the more quality control this monitor has, i will explain why i think so.

My first Swift #1 monitor i purchased 2016-07-07 and it had the serial number G3 (EU) which i believe it meant it was manufactured in march 2016 if i'm not mistaken. It had one tiny black dot top to the right in the corner and backlight bleed.
Have a look: http://imgur.com/a/DMmkz

Swift #2 purchased on 2016-07-20 and it was G3 as well, anyway the backlight bleed was not too bad and had no dead pixel. I still send because i wanted to try the acer but this is a different story.
http://imgur.com/a/OMpV1

Swift #3 purchased on 2016-08-05 this time is G6 and this was the worst monitor i've had so far, more than 4 dead pixels and yellow shiny backlight bleed in the corners.
http://imgur.com/a/1gCVz

Swift #4 purchased on 2016-08-15, G5 modell it had the same backlight bleed as G6 but one dead pixel/stuck pixel this time in the middle of the screen.
http://imgur.com/a/55cgq

Swift #5 purchased on 2016-08-19, G2 modell best one so far if the not best in the world. No dead pixel or stuck pixels, 95% less backlight bleed than my previous PG monitor and i the IPS glow is very minmal and can barely tell, i just can't see it when sitting on my chair even at close range my eyes just can't pick any IPS glow on this panel.
http://imgur.com/a/FpEqZ

Anyway i think even G2 can have some problems like, dead pixels. I just got lucky but definitely try your luck first with G2 and you wont regret it or just wait for G8 end of this month or the next but it may be even worst than G6 or better than G2. I know this sound weird and stupid but i feel like the newer manufactured has way more QC issues than previous one.

Alternativ:
Acer XB271HU, one dead pixel left to the middle, minimal yellow backlight bleed compare to the Asus G3, G5, G6 but it definitely not even close as my G2. I send it back because it looked ugly, dead pixel, and the screen shaked on my desk when ever i type something on my keyboard.
http://imgur.com/a/SukCF

DELL S2716DG, no dead pixel, minimal backlight bleed than the Asus but not good as the Acer. The reason i send this one back because the colors and pixel inversion was horrible.
http://imgur.com/a/fxW75
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Ok after many research and RMA i finally got my hand 100% clean monitor. I found out that the newer manufactured date is the more quality control this monitor has, i will explain why i think so.

My first Swift #1 monitor i purchased 2016-07-07 and it had the serial number G3 (EU) which i believe it meant it was manufactured in march 2016 if i'm not mistaken. It had one tiny black dot top to the right in the corner and backlight bleed.
Have a look: http://imgur.com/a/DMmkz

Swift #2 purchased on 2016-07-20 and it was G3 as well, anyway the backlight bleed was not too bad and had no dead pixel. I still send because i wanted to try the acer but this is a different story.
http://imgur.com/a/OMpV1

Swift #3 purchased on 2016-08-05 this time is G6 and this was the worst monitor i've had so far, more than 4 dead pixels and yellow shiny backlight bleed in the corners.
http://imgur.com/a/1gCVz

Swift #4 purchased on 2016-08-15, G5 modell it had the same backlight bleed as G6 but one dead pixel/stuck pixel this time in the middle of the screen.
http://imgur.com/a/55cgq

Swift #5 purchased on 2016-08-19, G2 modell best one so far if the not best in the world. No dead pixel or stuck pixels, 95% less backlight bleed than my previous PG monitor and i the IPS glow is very minmal and can barely tell, i just can't see it when sitting on my chair even at close range my eyes just can't pick any IPS glow on this panel.
http://imgur.com/a/FpEqZ

Anyway i think even G2 can have some problems like, dead pixels. I just got lucky but definitely try your luck first with G2 and you wont regret it or just wait for G8 end of this month or the next but it may be even worst than G6 or better than G2. I know this sound weird and stupid but i feel like the newer manufactured has way more QC issues than previous one.

Alternativ:
Acer XB271HU, one dead pixel left to the middle, minimal yellow backlight bleed compare to the Asus G3, G5, G6 but it definitely not even close as my G2. I send it back because it looked ugly, dead pixel, and the screen shaked on my desk when ever i type something on my keyboard.
http://imgur.com/a/SukCF

DELL S2716DG, no dead pixel, minimal backlight bleed than the Asus but not good as the Acer. The reason i send this one back because the colors and pixel inversion was horrible.
http://imgur.com/a/fxW75

Great news MentalBlank. Did you also check the luminance uniformity? I would like to get confirmation that there are panels that don't have that yellowish tint on some places of the screen when you look at it on a large white background. Also from which month is that #5 model?

The models i've tested where all G3 and build date March 2016
Edited by XionaxLomax - 8/19/16 at 11:25am
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I did some white, red, blue, green background test all were 100% clear. First when i got the monitor it had worm color on the white but i fixed it by chaning it from user color to normal/cool. I will take some screenshot later. I don't think i notice anything you mentioned. As for G5, G means probably 2016, and the number is the month of the manufactured so my guess will be May 2016.
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@MentalBlank

Where did you purchase your monitors?
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