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Am I wrong? Please explain.
I was focusing more on your assertion that one's eyes will eventually get used to "anything". Well, maybe, to an extent, but even without a colorimeter, why would one have to adjust to inaccurate colors if there's some sort of middle ground?

I wouldn't be picky about your wording in the first place, but i've already witnessed several pages of you berating consumers for not wanting a monitor without decent uniformity and coming up with excuses for the manufacturers.
    
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You can do SOME adjustment by eye, at least eyeball to get correct gamma and ETC.. it wont be 100% but getting as close to Gamma 2.2 as possible is nice

Would be awesome if games could respect colorspace however.. Nothing more annoying than a game that doesnt.. Which is why actually eyeballing some adjustments to get "close" on the screen is important, and having a screen that looks good sans a LUT profile is a nice thing.

The Spyder 5 was on sale at B&H recently BTW, if you're dropping $800 on any monitor IMHO its worth it to drop the money on at least a Spyder 5 Express or something...

ANYWAYS my PG279Q experience is far better than my PG278Q and MG278 experiences last year.... I will possibly write up a review... I'm finding GSync to be better now than last year (Where i thought it honestly was a "meh" feature..)
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Not really accurate colour representation if you use a profile that was generated by a guy with a much different lighting in his room.
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Send it back. Its a problem with the panel and ASUS is aware of this. They've asked the panel manufactor to solve this as soon as possible since January 2016

They were out of stock when I requested my exchange so I had to do a straight return, but low and behold, Amazon prime got just a couple in stock briefly last night and I was able to pick one up in time. It will arrive on Wed, so I will wait till it gets here so I can side by side compare.
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They were out of stock when I requested my exchange so I had to do a straight return, but low and behold, Amazon prime got just a couple in stock briefly last night and I was able to pick one up in time. It will arrive on Wed, so I will wait till it gets here so I can side by side compare.

Another episode of monitor bingo! I've had a total of 4 send back and waiting till my supplier can deliver me a post august model. Why? because of the potential firmware issue which requires owners to send it back to asus for a firmware upgrade.....
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I was focusing more on your assertion that one's eyes will eventually get used to "anything". Well, maybe, to an extent, but even without a colorimeter, why would one have to adjust to inaccurate colors if there's some sort of middle ground?

I wouldn't be picky about your wording in the first place, but i've already witnessed several pages of you berating consumers for not wanting a monitor without decent uniformity and coming up with excuses for the manufacturers.

Hardly berating consumers. More like challenging childish and fanatical comments about this monitor being "the worst monitor they have ever used" and it being "worse than a 100 dollar monitor"

Such comments add nothing to the conversation, and really come off as immature and myopic. I'm just here to say dial it down a bit. It's like people who have one bug in a game and call it "literally unplayable."
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Hardly berating consumers. More like challenging childish and fanatical comments about this monitor being "the worst monitor they have ever used" and it being "worse than a 100 dollar monitor"
It's true that people exaggerated in their response, but one can easily synthesize what they mean from their hyperbole. It is true that the right $150-200 monitors have better uniformity than most of the PG279Q units (older revisions, anyway). I've used $150-200 Dell IPS monitors extensively at the office, and i can assure you that uniformity is IMMENSELY better than what was seen in some of these pictures and measurements by review sites.

It's an inescapable truth that the QC on these monitors is (or, at least, was) really bad, and a consumer paying $800 for one has the right to feel outraged. Luckily, it seems that both Samsung and LG have seen fit to join the high refresh competition and that the QC on these monitors seems to have better lately. 2017 will be testament to the righteousness of the very consumers you were "challenging", as you put it.
    
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It's true that people exaggerated in their response, but one can easily synthesize what they mean from their hyperbole. It is true that the right $150-200 monitors have better uniformity than most of the PG279Q units (older revisions, anyway). I've used $150-200 Dell IPS monitors extensively at the office, and i can assure you that uniformity is IMMENSELY better than what was seen in some of these pictures and measurements by review sites.

It's an inescapable truth that the QC on these monitors is (or, at least, was) really bad, and a consumer paying $800 for one has the right to feel outraged. Luckily, it seems that both Samsung and LG have seen fit to join the high refresh competition and that the QC on these monitors seems to have better lately. 2017 will be testament to the righteousness of the very consumers you were "challenging", as you put it.

I fully agree with you, but that's my point. Uniformity is only one aspect of this monitor, and one that the majority of users do not notice or care about. The fact is, any other 150-200 dollar monitor will not get you half the features of this package.

I do light Photoshop, gaming, and other normal tasks on my monitor, and a slight yellow tint on a portion of my screen has absolutely no detriment to these things...the same goes for most other people who are buying this as a "gaming monitor" which is what it is advertised as. If I bought a monitor marketed as a professional photo editing display with 100% accurate color reproduction, etc. I would be outraged. But I feel I got what I was expecting. A kickass, high refresh rate, G-Sync capable, IPS with fantastic viewing angles, feature packed display with great build quality and aesthetics.

I hate to make analogies, but I don't buy a Prius and complain about a lack of horsepower. I know what I'm getting myself into, and a yellow tint that is only really noticeable on all-white backdrops hardly renders this display as unusable.
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It's true that people exaggerated in their response, but one can easily synthesize what they mean from their hyperbole. It is true that the right $150-200 monitors have better uniformity than most of the PG279Q units (older revisions, anyway). I've used $150-200 Dell IPS monitors extensively at the office, and i can assure you that uniformity is IMMENSELY better than what was seen in some of these pictures and measurements by review sites.

It's an inescapable truth that the QC on these monitors is (or, at least, was) really bad, and a consumer paying $800 for one has the right to feel outraged. Luckily, it seems that both Samsung and LG have seen fit to join the high refresh competition and that the QC on these monitors seems to have better lately. 2017 will be testament to the righteousness of the very consumers you were "challenging", as you put it.

I fully agree with you, but that's my point. Uniformity is only one aspect of this monitor, and one that the majority of users do not notice or care about. The fact is, any other 150-200 dollar monitor will not get you half the features of this package.

I do light Photoshop, gaming, and other normal tasks on my monitor, and a slight yellow tint on a portion of my screen has absolutely no detriment to these things...the same goes for most other people who are buying this as a "gaming monitor" which is what it is advertised as. If I bought a monitor marketed as a professional photo editing display with 100% accurate color reproduction, etc. I would be outraged. But I feel I got what I was expecting. A kickass, high refresh rate, G-Sync capable, IPS with fantastic viewing angles, feature packed display with great build quality and aesthetics.

I hate to make analogies, but I don't buy a Prius and complain about a lack of horsepower. I know what I'm getting myself into, and a yellow tint that is only really noticeable on all-white backdrops hardly renders this display as unusable.
$150-200 monitors are not advertised as professional editing monitors, either, but they present better uniformity BECAUSE there's a minimum standard that LG (and, by proxy, Samsung and others) abide to. Your whole premise is based on the fact that bad uniformity seen on a lot of units of this model is pervasive and normalized, which isn't the case.

This is, very simply, AUO (or Acer and Asus, since they have the final say) cutting corners on providing consumers with something that all other panel manufacturers do (some to a bigger extent). And i hope the consumer outrage has made a dent in the sales because it's warranted.

If you gave up on given expectations on products just because they're not "marketed as such", the market would be filled with much worse products. And if $150 monitors, marketed as NOTHING IN PARTICULAR (other than just being cheap, neat little displays) can achieve better uniformity than a $800 monitor, you'd better expect some whine.
    
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$150-200 monitors are not advertised as professional editing monitors, either, but they present better uniformity BECAUSE there's a minimum standard that LG (and, by proxy, Samsung and others) abide to. Your whole premise is based on the fact that bad uniformity seen on a lot of units of this model is pervasive and normalized, which isn't the case.

This is, very simply, AUO (or Acer and Asus, since they have the final say) cutting corners on providing consumers with something that all other panel manufacturers do (some to a bigger extent). And i hope the consumer outrage has made a dent in the sales because it's warranted.

If you gave up on given expectations on products just because they're not "marketed as such", the market would be filled with much worse products. And if $150 monitors, marketed as NOTHING IN PARTICULAR (other than just being cheap, neat little displays) can achieve better uniformity than a $800 monitor, you'd better expect some whine.

I think there is a difference between holding high expectations for a monitor and being ignorant to the writing on the wall. I agree that at some point a line must be drawn regarding the quality of the monitor, however I have to agree with Anoxy at least to some degree. As a consumer, your dollar is your vote so use it accordingly. Quality is definitely lacking in the panels, but there are panels out there that are great quality, and to be honest, I can't tell uniformity issues that well unless it's exceeding bad. If you can see issues, fine, return the panel and get a new one or a different monitor.

Hopefully all of the returns and exchanges, these manufacturers will realize that consumers are in fact looking for quality and have expectations. I just think that if you're buying this monitor, you probably should read the reviews first. I purchased a PG279Q well knowing the risks, and I ended up getting one with bad BLB and glow as well as a bit of bad uniformity. I sent it back and bought an XB271HU off another forum user that was basically perfect. Good panels exist out there, and I agree that every panel should be of a certain standard. Hopefully these types of monitors become more stable as they're out on the market longer. We can also hope that Samsung and LG begin to manufacture these panels to light a fire under AOUs pants. If you get a bad one, make sure you return or exchange it, and write a review to make sure the word gets out there.
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