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Ok so random question. I realize ASIC score is mostly theoretical however there must be merit to it if places such as EVGA are charging such s premium for it. My confusion about ASIC is the fact that a lower ASIC is deemed better for liquid cooling overclocks yet the cards with the pcb customized to handle the additional volts and amps are binned for their higher ASIC quality. If they are meant to be liquid cooled why the heck would they used high binned cards? Am I missing something here?


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asic isn't theoretical; we KNOW it reflects on how much voltage is needed at a given clock speed. thumb.gif

since maxwell is much more finicky with temps than kepler and fermi; it is more desirable to have a higher asic to keep the temps down. to really see the benefit is having to use a sub ambient cooling solution (read:LN2) whereas before h2o would be enough to suffice; like starting at -120 and below.

this is a good read:
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Good read indeed. I did end up biting the bullet and getting the gigabyte xtreme 980tis over the reference. I wanted to be able to use the stock coolers and still achieve very high overclocks. Seemed like this would work the best for the price. Since I'll be overclocking on air I realize I will be voltage limited however in the article it states that the cards do not like increased voltage. Although he spent more time talking about memory voltage he did talk about core not liking it either. On my current cards even though my ASIC is 80.6 my max core clock I can get stable is 1455. I am only able to reach that if I max out voltage for the stock bios.

After reading that I can only hope the xtreme cards will suffice for air cooled overclocking cause I plan to run them at the absolute max 24/7.


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Good read indeed. I did end up biting the bullet and getting the gigabyte xtreme 980tis over the reference. I wanted to be able to use the stock coolers and still achieve very high overclocks. Seemed like this would work the best for the price. Since I'll be overclocking on air I realize I will be voltage limited however in the article it states that the cards do not like increased voltage. Although he spent more time talking about memory voltage he did talk about core not liking it either. On my current cards even though my ASIC is 80.6 my max core clock I can get stable is 1455. I am only able to reach that if I max out voltage for the stock bios.

After reading that I can only hope the xtreme cards will suffice for air cooled overclocking cause I plan to run them at the absolute max 24/7.


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The Gigabyte cards are pretty good from what I hear. I decided to go with the G1 Gaming OC myself and it is pretty nice to play with so far. I haven't gotten into crazy OCing just yet but I have +120mhz on core and it's running smooth and cool.

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Good read indeed. I did end up biting the bullet and getting the gigabyte xtreme 980tis over the reference. I wanted to be able to use the stock coolers and still achieve very high overclocks. Seemed like this would work the best for the price. Since I'll be overclocking on air I realize I will be voltage limited however in the article it states that the cards do not like increased voltage. Although he spent more time talking about memory voltage he did talk about core not liking it either. On my current cards even though my ASIC is 80.6 my max core clock I can get stable is 1455. I am only able to reach that if I max out voltage for the stock bios.

After reading that I can only hope the xtreme cards will suffice for air cooled overclocking cause I plan to run them at the absolute max 24/7.


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The Gigabyte cards are pretty good from what I hear. I decided to go with the G1 Gaming OC myself and it is pretty nice to play with so far. I haven't gotten into crazy OCing just yet but I have +120mhz on core and it's running smooth and cool.


I had planned for the g1 but ended up paying the same price for an xtreme version. I doubt there is any useful feature difference between them since I do not plan on using LN2 cooling.


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I had planned for the g1 but ended up paying the same price for an xtreme version. I doubt there is any useful feature difference between them since I do not plan on using LN2 cooling.


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Yea I can understand that. I also went with the G1 for the color scheme though :P

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IMO its completely lottery. I've had 980Tis on water that wouldn't gain +50Mhz over their max on air, new bios and all. I've had others that hold 1550-1580 and the asic had nothing to do with it. Lowest asic I've ever had was 69% and it didn't do well on water. Most are in the 75%+ and they do better on water just a weird maxwell thing. They are nothing like keplar.
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there is ALWAYS the silicone lottery - that is a given.

what separates maxwell from previous generations is its response to temps. wink.gif
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ty joe.


ICYMI no need to disable the device in the manger or even run a command prompt w/ joe dirt's flash.

just drag the ROM file over the EXE

(disables the driver, opens its own window, press Y, watch the little white dots go across, closes window and then enables the driver again all by itself.)

reboot and BOOM - done.

How do you selectively flash each card if you have multiple cards?
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NVM.
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here.
this is from the 780 owner's thread and credit to skyn3t and occamrazor:
EZflash.zip 12k .zip file

it has two readme (one for regular flashing and the other withPLX chips)

name the rom file x.rom have that, the flashexe (with x84 or x64 dll) and the batch file in the same folder. click on the BAT file and follow the menu. thumb.gif
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update 12/12/2013
Added support to owners with PLX chip and guide how to.

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* Have fun. Don't forget to visit us at
* http://www.overclock.net :)

* Easy flash - In other to use this tool you must rename the rom to "X.rom"
* if not the Easy Flash will not work"
* For support OCN: OccamRazor
* cheers :p

* PS: In order for this tool to work you must place it in the same
* nvflash directory and rename the vBios to "x.rom"

# 1. nvflash --protectoff      " This disable EEprom "
# 2. nvflash --save            " This will save the stock bios or vBios before flash "
# 3. nvflash -4 -5 -6          " Normal Flash "
# 4. nvflash -override -6      " Override GPU ID mismatch "

* Use this options to flash each individual GPU in different order
* and if you have *PLX chip* or if any those command above fail to flash.

# 5.  nvflash -i0 -4 -5 -6      " Flash GPU #1 "
# 6.  nvflash -i1 -4 -5 -6      " Flash GPU #2 "
# 7.  nvflash -i2 -4 -5 -6      " Flash GPU #3 "
# 8.  nvflash -i3 -4 -5 -6      " Flash GPU #4 "
# 9.  nvflash -i4 -4 -5 -6      " Flash GPU #5 "
# 10. nvflash -i5 -4 -5 -6      " Flash GPU #6 "

# 11. nvflash --help            " All you need to know about Nvflash "

i just ran it but to save the rom - which it did to the folder and called it backup.rom.

so click bat file brings up the menu in command prompt
enter #number brings up the permissions dialogue box - click ok and disables driver, does its work and re enables driver.
done.

Does this particular one you linked works with 980 ti and windows 10? I'm confused, why should i use that old program instead of joedirts?
Edited by ghostrider85 - 3/1/16 at 5:56pm
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