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around 6 months* after the 980ti was release there was a few quotes floating around from k|ngp|n that 1.23 - 1.25 was about the max voltage on air/water for GM200 when scaling get's more horrid. some of lower ASIC cards i found can use a bit more, ~1.28 but yeah, if you're starting out by jacking up the voltage before increasing clock speed; you're probably doing it wrong.

* make that 2 months. i remember i had my classy then.

Agree 100% would you try edit my bios later Im on my
Phone atm and Will hit the gym soon. But if i upload my bios would you be kind to try ? Maybe Im doing things wrong

My asic is 84.8% Im doing 1600@1.200 volts but i could image i have screwd up the voltage sliders.... oh and i run ekwb fullcovr for my card
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just keep in mind that 109% (300 watts) is now the 100%.

two things to also be mindful at times:

boost bins are in 13mhz increments. you can see in the boost table, though a few are 12.5Mhz: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
and voltage increases in ~6mv increments, though depending on the ASIC it may need 12mv to 18mv to increase a boost bin (of 13mhz). the lower the ASIC% the higher voltage it needs. ie my ~66.9% ASIC needs 18mv-24mv.

with that said, yeah you can get some more out of the card BUT a higher ASIC% card will see some diminishing returns sooner when jacking up the voltage too much unless keeping the chip under 36c; even on water myself that means a cold ambient temp day! the max supposedly set in that bios is ~1.25 (it may read 1.248 in AB) so you may be able to increase that w/voltage slider in AB, no?

when it comes down to it, 1513@1.224 is really pretty good completely game stable. its really just benchmarking that increasing more would help but nothing wrong with that.
+

fair enough, makes sense.

so you think my OC is good at that volt? my ambient temp is 20 ish.tommorow il try p
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Originally Posted by looniam View Post

around 6 months* after the 980ti was release there was a few quotes floating around from k|ngp|n that 1.23 - 1.25 was about the max voltage on air/water for GM200 when scaling get's more horrid. some of lower ASIC cards i found can use a bit more, ~1.28 but yeah, if you're starting out by jacking up the voltage before increasing clock speed; you're probably doing it wrong.

* make that 2 months. i remember i had my classy then.

so 1.25volt is and should be MAX for stability and life span huh :O i guess that'll do then haha.
is there any other way to let the gpu take more power through pcie or 8pin+6pin plugs? allow it to eat more watt? or that is too dangerous again ? my PSU is only 750 egva g2 i was reading somewhere that 700watt is minimum when doing 300watt gpu or something like that?

also i just noticed something weird. in AB i applied volt +87 but then i tested turning it down bit by bit and i see that at +45 it will OC volts to 1.2430 , after +46 no more volt is applied... is this auto safety or something?
Edited by TomaShen - 4/16/17 at 2:55am
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Sweet card how Many points in 1080p Extreme @ unique2 benchmark ??

Haven't tried. Can only do 1550MHz tops on the OC for 3D benches at 1.212V.
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Haven't tried. Can only do 1550MHz tops on the OC for 3D benches at 1.212V.

thats a pretty sweet card.

can i try flash your titan x (m) bios? biggrin.gif:D:D:D and dont know if it would work. i assume, since i can hit 1650 game stable, my chip could be an titanx-M with disabled cudas? hmmm
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gigabytex.zip 145k .zip file

could anyone try play around with my bios? my asic is 84.8% i have it going 1600 @ 1.200 volt, i wish i could do 1680 or 1700mhz, my card is not voltage locked... right now i max out @ 1650@1.275 volt..

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Us on the gigabyte Xtreme 980tis have another breed of power delivery capibility.
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Agree 100% would you try edit my bios later Im on my
Phone atm and Will hit the gym soon. But if i upload my bios would you be kind to try ? Maybe Im doing things wrong

My asic is 84.8% Im doing 1600@1.200 volts but i could image i have screwd up the voltage sliders.... oh and i run ekwb fullcovr for my card
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gigabytex.zip 145k .zip file

could anyone try play around with my bios? my asic is 84.8% i have it going 1600 @ 1.200 volt, i wish i could do 1680 or 1700mhz, my card is not voltage locked... right now i max out @ 1650@1.275 volt..

cheers
you know, you probably have the most exciting card here. smile.gif

looking at that (macro?)scaling curve of 1600/1.20v to 1650/1.275 that would put it at least 1.35v but i suspect more closer to 1.4v since the bios is set to 1.281 but you'll read only 1.27 in AB because that is the max the driver will report. i can confirm that as i stayed up 13mhz (boost bin) when i edited. so before going any higher with core volts, please look at getting a DMM and find some measure points to get correct readings. thumb.gif i'd also think trying ~12mv bumps to plot clock speed (you know, like OCing from scratch) will show where the returns start really falling off.

and going to insert more of my mantra of temps. when on air i'd get a boost bin (13mhz) or a few going from 72c to 64c then ~54c (outside, cold night benching), later on water i found another ~13mhz staying under ~36c. some another consideration is seeing what it will take to lower your loop temps. mine was turning off the furnace as i went to work and thinking of buying a chiller tongue.gif )
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Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Originally Posted by looniam View Post

just keep in mind that 109% (300 watts) is now the 100%.

two things to also be mindful at times:

boost bins are in 13mhz increments. you can see in the boost table, though a few are 12.5Mhz: Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
and voltage increases in ~6mv increments, though depending on the ASIC it may need 12mv to 18mv to increase a boost bin (of 13mhz). the lower the ASIC% the higher voltage it needs. ie my ~66.9% ASIC needs 18mv-24mv.

with that said, yeah you can get some more out of the card BUT a higher ASIC% card will see some diminishing returns sooner when jacking up the voltage too much unless keeping the chip under 36c; even on water myself that means a cold ambient temp day! the max supposedly set in that bios is ~1.25 (it may read 1.248 in AB) so you may be able to increase that w/voltage slider in AB, no?

when it comes down to it, 1513@1.224 is really pretty good completely game stable. its really just benchmarking that increasing more would help but nothing wrong with that.
+

fair enough, makes sense.

so you think my OC is good at that volt? my ambient temp is 20 ish.tommorow il try p Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)
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Originally Posted by looniam View Post

around 6 months* after the 980ti was release there was a few quotes floating around from k|ngp|n that 1.23 - 1.25 was about the max voltage on air/water for GM200 when scaling get's more horrid. some of lower ASIC cards i found can use a bit more, ~1.28 but yeah, if you're starting out by jacking up the voltage before increasing clock speed; you're probably doing it wrong.

* make that 2 months. i remember i had my classy then.

so 1.25volt is and should be MAX for stability and life span huh :O i guess that'll do then haha.
is there any other way to let the gpu take more power through pcie or 8pin+6pin plugs? allow it to eat more watt? or that is too dangerous again ? my PSU is only 750 egva g2 i was reading somewhere that 700watt is minimum when doing 300watt gpu or something like that?

also i just noticed something weird. in AB i applied volt +87 but then i tested turning it down bit by bit and i see that at +45 it will OC volts to 1.2430 , after +46 no more volt is applied... is this auto safety or something?

you have another nice card. (where are those eVGA owners? blinksmiley.gif )

i didn't mean to say the MAX, but when diminishing returns really kicks in. there is a variable with ASIC% but generally if you plotted core speed/voltage you'd likely see a substantial drop off ~1.25 not to mentions an exponential rise in power consumption(heat). and speaking of power, yes you can safely increase those but that MSI bios is giving you enough with 162/175 watts for each 8 pin (100%/117%) personally, i never add the pci-e slot power for overhead reasons.

i have the same PSU, not sure what QA your cables went through but looking at the terminals (those thingys crimped on the wire connecting to the pin of the PSU/PEG power) in the connectors to PSU and card, i'm confident they can handle the rated 11amps each. but some people will argue that more than 7amps (12volts*7amps*3wires=252watts) will introduce some toaster oven heating elements in your case. toaster oven issue aside, as long as each power connection has it's own cable, even for 6+8 along with 8+8 connections, there shouldn't be any problems with better than a consumer/mainstream tier PSU.

and was recommended that after flashing, to delete the gpu's profile in AB:
C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\Profiles\{device name}.cfg

not sure if that is a thing anymore, i stopped doing it awhile ago but i haven't done much but tweaked a setting or two in a bios for myself in a long while. but try shutting down AB delete that cfg file and seeing what that gets you. that +87 should change to the difference between the default voltage (what ever it likes out of the box) and the max voltage allowed in the bios.
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you know, you probably have the most exciting card here. smile.gif

looking at that (macro?)scaling curve of 1600/1.20v to 1650/1.275 that would put it at least 1.35v but i suspect more closer to 1.4v since the bios is set to 1.281 but you'll read only 1.27 in AB because that is the max the driver will report. i can confirm that as i stayed up 13mhz (boost bin) when i edited. so before going any higher with core volts, please look at getting a DMM and find some measure points to get correct readings. thumb.gif i'd also think trying ~12mv bumps to plot clock speed (you know, like OCing from scratch) will show where the returns start really falling off.

and going to insert more of my mantra of temps. when on air i'd get a boost bin (13mhz) or a few going from 72c to 64c then ~54c (outside, cold night benching), later on water i found another ~13mhz staying under ~36c. some another consideration is seeing what it will take to lower your loop temps. mine was turning off the furnace as i went to work and thinking of buying a chiller tongue.gif )
you have another nice card. (where are those eVGA owners? blinksmiley.gif )

i didn't mean to say the MAX, but when diminishing returns really kicks in. there is a variable with ASIC% but generally if you plotted core speed/voltage you'd likely see a substantial drop off ~1.25 not to mentions an exponential rise in power consumption(heat). and speaking of power, yes you can safely increase those but that MSI bios is giving you enough with 162/175 watts for each 8 pin (100%/117%) personally, i never add the pci-e slot power for overhead reasons.

i

cheers, i try later tonight, SADLY im selling my machine, means my card get sold to... not playing anymore computer realy, only some csgo, dont realy need this much power.. so RIP 980 TI of doom... where fun, only took me 5 other cards to get this good one hehe... ( thank god for 14 days refound on online retailers )

im looking at something like i3 7300k, 1060gtx 6gb with an 1080p monitor, just to rek some noobs in csgo tongue.gif the guy that get my machine & card is only playing diablo 3.. so thats life. but okay he will be happy im sure smile.gif

think the best firestrike i went by, where 23k GS, i felt boss and happy for once in life to do something that stupid, no1 cares in real life anyways. it where just fun biggrin.gif
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Hey GTX 980Ti owners,

We are having our monthly Foldathon from Monday 17th - Wednesday 19th - 12 noon EST.
Would you consider putting all that power to a good cause for those 2 days? If so, come sign up and fold with us - see attached link.

April 2017 Foldathon

 

BTW - make sure you sign up :thumb:


To get started:

1.Get a passkey (allows for speed bonus) - need a valid email address
http://fah-web.stanford.edu/cgi-bin/getpasskey.py


2.Download the folding program:
http://folding.stanford.edu/


Enter your folding name (mine is the same as my OCN name)
Enter your passkey
Enter Team OCN number - 37726


later
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you know, you probably have the most exciting card here. smile.gif

looking at that (macro?)scaling curve of 1600/1.20v to 1650/1.275 that would put it at least 1.35v but i suspect more closer to 1.4v since the bios is set to 1.281 but you'll read only 1.27 in AB because that is the max the driver will report. i can confirm that as i stayed up 13mhz (boost bin) when i edited. so before going any higher with core volts, please look at getting a DMM and find some measure points to get correct readings. thumb.gif i'd also think trying ~12mv bumps to plot clock speed (you know, like OCing from scratch) will show where the returns start really falling off.

and going to insert more of my mantra of temps. when on air i'd get a boost bin (13mhz) or a few going from 72c to 64c then ~54c (outside, cold night benching), later on water i found another ~13mhz staying under ~36c. some another consideration is seeing what it will take to lower your loop temps. mine was turning off the furnace as i went to work and thinking of buying a chiller tongue.gif )
you have another nice card. (where are those eVGA owners? blinksmiley.gif )

i didn't mean to say the MAX, but when diminishing returns really kicks in. there is a variable with ASIC% but generally if you plotted core speed/voltage you'd likely see a substantial drop off ~1.25 not to mentions an exponential rise in power consumption(heat). and speaking of power, yes you can safely increase those but that MSI bios is giving you enough with 162/175 watts for each 8 pin (100%/117%) personally, i never add the pci-e slot power for overhead reasons.

i have the same PSU, not sure what QA your cables went through but looking at the terminals (those thingys crimped on the wire connecting to the pin of the PSU/PEG power) in the connectors to PSU and card, i'm confident they can handle the rated 11amps each. but some people will argue that more than 7amps (12volts*7amps*3wires=252watts) will introduce some toaster oven heating elements in your case. toaster oven issue aside, as long as each power connection has it's own cable, even for 6+8 along with 8+8 connections, there shouldn't be any problems with better than a consumer/mainstream tier PSU.

and was recommended that after flashing, to delete the gpu's profile in AB:
C:\Program Files (x86)\MSI Afterburner\Profiles\{device name}.cfg

not sure if that is a thing anymore, i stopped doing it awhile ago but i haven't done much but tweaked a setting or two in a bios for myself in a long while. but try shutting down AB delete that cfg file and seeing what that gets you. that +87 should change to the difference between the default voltage (what ever it likes out of the box) and the max voltage allowed in the bios.

i guess this will do for me then . ill see if any more problems or something else appears later. do you have steam ? if you dont mind adding me via pm or whatever? smile.gif would be great to stay in touch

EDIT : i tried installing UNIGINE SuperPosition benchmark. but it crashes before it even starts. windows 10 64bit creators update. anybody know what the problem is?
Edited by TomaShen - 4/17/17 at 1:06am
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