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I planning on building a main rig, lan party and gaming PC. I have a Corsair Graphite Series case is mind. It is a Mini-ITX case.
1) Should I going with an i5 4690k or i7 4790k or i7 5820k?
i5 4690k is about $100 cheaper than either i7 4790k or i7 5820k.
i7 4790k and i7 5820k are about the same price.
2) Can an ASRock X99E-ITX/ac oc a i7 5820k to 4.0ghz? It's looks like it has 6 phase power on it.
It will have a good CPU cooler and a good 750 watts PSU.
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I planning on building a main rig, lan party and gaming PC. I have a Corsair Graphite Series case is mind. It is a Mini-ITX case.
1) Should I going with an i5 4690k or i7 4790k or i7 5820k?
i5 4690k is about $100 cheaper than either i7 4790k or i7 5820k.
i7 4790k and i7 5820k are about the same price.
2) Can an Asrock Z97E-ITX/ac oc a i7 5820k to 4.0ghz? It's looks like it has 6 phase power on it.
It will have a good CPU cooler and a good 750 watts PSU.

Well if we are talking a lan build, then I would go with the i5.

The reason being is you will be limited to a single gpu, so the extra pcie lanes that x99 will give you will be 100% worthless.

Get one of those little itx 970 gpus, and a silverstone 450 watt psu with the short modular cables, and you are golden.
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I planning on building a main rig, lan party and gaming PC. I have a Corsair Graphite Series case is mind. It is a Mini-ITX case.
1) Should I going with an i5 4690k or i7 4790k or i7 5820k?
i5 4690k is about $100 cheaper than either i7 4790k or i7 5820k.
i7 4790k and i7 5820k are about the same price.
2) Can an Asrock Z97E-ITX/ac oc a i7 5820k to 4.0ghz? It's looks like it has 6 phase power on it.
It will have a good CPU cooler and a good 750 watts PSU.

Well if we are talking a lan build, then I would go with the i5.

The reason being is you will be limited to a single gpu, so the extra pcie lanes that x99 will give you will be 100% worthless.

Get one of those little itx 970 gpus, and a silverstone 450 watt psu with the short modular cables, and you are golden.
Well the GPU size is not in the question here, because the case can support 12.5 inch video card.
I was thinking the i7 5820k, because more and more games are coming out that can use 6 cores.
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Well the GPU size is not in the question here, because the case can support 12.5 inch video card.
I was thinking the i7 5820k, because more and more games are coming out that can use 6 cores.

Mmmmmmmmm yeah, but think of it this way. A mini card would reduce weight and would help the case breath more.

Plus you really do not want to be using all the space in a mini itx case anyways. You never know what an extra inch of space will allow you to do.


as for the cpu..........mmmmmmm nah. I have had this argument many times, and the simple truth is that while more games benefit from more cores, the extra performance gained is near negligible.

You would be better served getting a higher end gpu than you would by getting a 6 core cpu.


Plus directx 12 is going to further reduce the need for cpu power all together.

So for gaming, the 6 core cpu in this kind of a build would be futile.

However if you plan on doing any heavy photo or video editing on a hoby basis, then maybe a 6 core would be worth it. If that is the case though, I would urge you to consider just going m-atx.
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Good point on DX12, but it will be years before DX 12 will be main stream. I'm planning on getting a GTX 980 or GTX980Ti or AMD Fury X.
Thanx for the info.
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Good point on DX12, but it will be years before DX 12 will be main stream. I'm planning on getting a GTX 980 or GTX980Ti or AMD Fury X.
Thanx for the info.

Mmmmmmmmmm by Christmas time it will be mainstream. Microsoft made DX12 fairly easy to adopt and implement. Any game currently in development should be able to simply switch over.

Vulcan on the other hand might take some time.

Also, you can not have a fury X as far as I know. A fury x will be water cooled stock, and you really do not have any room for a radiator in a mini itx case.
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Fury Nano + 4690k with a low-pro cooler like the Silverstone AR05 in a super tiny case.
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The game that takes the most advantage of 6 cores (GTA V) doesn't play demonstrably better with a 6C/12T processor compared to an i5.

I will never understand the mindset behind wanting an X99 mini-ITX build. It just seems contradictory to me. If money is a concern, you won't lose much performance going with an i5-4690K. Just upgrade your GPU every 12 to 18 months if you want to continually play the newest games at the highest settings.
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Good point on DX12, but it will be years before DX 12 will be main stream. I'm planning on getting a GTX 980 or GTX980Ti or AMD Fury X.
Thanx for the info.

Mmmmmmmmmm by Christmas time it will be mainstream. Microsoft made DX12 fairly easy to adopt and implement. Any game currently in development should be able to simply switch over.

Vulcan on the other hand might take some time.

Also, you can not have a fury X as far as I know. A fury x will be water cooled stock, and you really do not have any room for a radiator in a mini itx case.
Look at that case please. It is design for a 280mm radiator. So I can use a Fury X in there.
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Look at that case please. It is design for a 280mm radiator. So I can use a Fury X in there.

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.... I am blind. Somehow I read silverstone case.

I have been thinking too hard about my own itx build. doh.gif

Alright then, carry on
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