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this could easily be offset voltage recheck with changing that value to something else smile.gif

+1 .

What are you seeing change as at 0x26? was hex value 65 there with ROM which had offset present and now 00 or FF with offset removed?

Basically any of us (excluding The Stilt or a viewer of thread with such knowledge) will have no idea how i2c dump would change with ROM change IMO.
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if you change offset value in bios then you can see which register it takes in i2c dump its easy as that smile.gif
but offset values are pretty dumb its better to set offset to 0mV then mess with DPM levels until card is fully stable
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This is stock Vapor-X 290X OC edition compare, +25mV Vs +0mV , this is the editable GPU Core Voltage offset which does show clearly as + xx mV on Core Voltage slider when present in ROM.

I change only a hex value 04 (+25mV) to 00 (+0mV).



Attached zip has i2cdump + VEN file via MSI AB, GPU registers dump via AiDA64, AtomDis tables list and the ROMs.

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yep change can be found in i2c dump

0mV
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 88 88 01 C2 44 00 00 1F

25mV
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 88 88 01 C2 44 04 00 1F
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@gupsterg

Ok, so I've been out of commission for the past 24 hours. tongue.gif

Here's what I've done.
I retried fixing a bios while only chaning the memory straps for my elpida memory tables. All I did was changing memory straps between 1250 up to 1625 to all be 1250 straps. This time I checked every step of the way for a bit of clarification.

Changing only the straps, saving and not doing a checksum control through hawaiibiosreader, the bioses look exactly the same. After I did the checksum, the biosreader changed the DPM 2,3,4,5,6 values to be a bit different, same as you saw, gupsterg. Thinking this is fine and checking that the only thing differing between the new one and the original one is the DPM values and the memory strap, I proceeded to flash my bios to the new one.
After I flashed it it changed a few things in table, right under the letters "AMD ATOMBIOS";
00000250, columns 01,02,03,04, which you told me were 4 invalid hex values. They are different than the values that you noticed in the Hawaii1250strap.rom I sent you though.
Those values change when I flash it. I even tried flashing it twice to see if any numbers change, which they don't.

I will try this bios for a little while and see if I find any anomalies with it. You think that's safe?
Next gpu will not be an asus one, if I don't find it very low priced, which I did with this one. biggrin.gif


EDIT: So I got a black screen while gaming with the new bios and thought to change it back. I flashed my original bios in and compared it to itself in HxD and noticed that they have a few numbers different. First is the same as before, at the 00000020, second column. Second differing is also where the "invalid hex values" were in the others; 00000250, column 02, right after the "AMD ATOMBIOS". Only one this time though. Should I be worried about this? It seems to be something that it does on it's own when I try to flash back to the original bios. Identification failsafe perhaps?
Edited by Slarre - 1/24/16 at 12:30am
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What are you seeing change as at 0x26? was hex value 65 there with ROM which had offset present and now 00 or FF with offset removed?

Basically any of us (excluding The Stilt or a viewer of thread with such knowledge) will have no idea how i2c dump would change with ROM change IMO.
When the "new offset voltage method" 65h in XFX390DD ROM is removed, the value at offset 0x26 changed from 65 to 00.

i2c dump i2c registers of the device. Basically it contain configuration & also monitoring information. If one ROM have different configuration (for the registers) than the other ROM then you will see difference in i2c dump between the two ROMs. Also even with the same ROM you can get two different dump when the status of the device changed, e.g. temp change. Only two values I know are at offset 0x8D which is VDDC & offset 0x8E which is VDDCI. May I know why you're looking at the i2c dump? The only thing I can think of is you want to change the configuration on the fly. Not all registers R/W though, some R/O only.

This is i2c dump that I get at two different times with the same ROM (150_850 with 290 referenced VID). MSI AB untouched. I bet the values changed are monitoring data.





BTW, I have been using your 150_850 ROM with my 290 referenced VID. So far so good. If there is any problem, it should already show by now. So it is successful. thumb.gif BTW, below is comparison of i2c dump between offset (left) & no offset (right). See offset 0x26.


Edited by kizwan - 1/23/16 at 10:39pm
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we should start getting into undocumented registry stuff and how to modify driver profiles without using crimson/catalyst and while we are at it, instead of just having all this information in 130posts at this point... document it, make a giant readme or write a website with... SQUARESPACE - BUILD IT BEAUTIFUL!
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@OneB1t

Agree, 0x8D is location of VDDC only offset smile.gif, marked in posted image by red box wink.gif.

@Slarre

From you new post / testing we can conclude hawaiireader is correcting the DPM frequency values 2,3,4,5,6. I didn't know it did that but great work by @OneB1t and team thumb.gif . I would use file with corrected values.

I don't know why the 4 hex values I highlighted near the beginning of video I posted are changing between bios flashing and after dumping it. Thank you for reporting back on your testing.

I have yet to see a dumped bios be different from the one I flashed, I just don't know why it's occurring on your system thinking.gif .

Attached is the atiflash I use via bootable USB with DOS on it, would you mind trying and seeing if same happens?

atiflash.zip 235k .zip file

@kizwan

Thank you for info thumb.gif.

SO in i2cdump 0x26 = VDDC & VDDCI offset , which does not show on MSI AB Core Voltage slider / Aux Voltage. I will be adding this info to OP so someone can quickly see if they have VDDC & VDDCI offset present. From my test results we can see 0x8D = VDDC offset which does show on MSI AB Core Voltage slider.

Agree 0x90 - 0xCF must be monitoring data. Only reason why viewing i2cdumps is to see it's relationship with bios values.

As I don't have VoltageObjectInfo table in ROM which has a VDDC & VDDCI offset hex value (ie not even 00) in i2c dump 0x26 is FF.

Did you get test results for using the XFX 390 ROM on TPU I linked which has 55 at 0xAC40 for VDDC & VDDCI voltage reading?
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LOL, OP has been and will be kept up to date with info from new stuff smile.gif .
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Did you get test results for using the XFX 390 ROM on TPU I linked which has 55 at 0xAC40 for VDDC & VDDCI voltage reading?
I did not yet. I will need to mod the BIOS for the 4GB support first right? How about GPU ID, do I need to mod it & how?
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Yes you need to mod to 4GB, heading Supported memory size editing in OP.

I'd make Device ID info same as what you see in the ROM you supplied for VDDCI state mod, heading UEFI adding / removing plus Device ID editing info in OP.
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CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Ryzen 7 1700 Asus Crosshair VI Hero Sapphire Fury X@1145/545 G.Skill Trident Z 2x 8GB 3200MHz C14 
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Samsung Evo 840 ThermalRight Archon IB-E X2 + 2x TY143 ThermalRight TY-143 2x front case intake Arctic Cooling F12 + 2x F9 as rear case exhaust 
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Win 7 Pro x64 / Win 10 Pro x64 Asus MG279Q Cherry MX-Board 3.0 Cooler Master V850 
CaseMouse
SilverStone TJ06 Logitech G700S 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
i5 4690K@4.9GHz 1.255V Asus Maximus VII Ranger Sapphire Fury X@1145/545 HyperX Savage 2x8GB 2400MHz C11 
Hard DriveCoolingOSMonitor
Samsung Evo 840 TR Archon SB-E X2 Win 7 Pro x64 / Win 10 x64 Asus MG279Q 
KeyboardPowerCaseMouse
Cherry MX-Board 3.0 Cooler Master V850 SilverStone TJ06 Logitech G700S 
CPUMotherboardGraphicsRAM
Intel Q6600 G0 Asus P5K Premium Black Pearl Sapphire Toxic HD5850 Corsair Dominator 4GB 
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