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Not sure if everyone saw this, but it is a call to arms Red Team!

 

http://www.overclock.net/t/1586140/3d-fanboy-competition-2016-nvidia-vs-amd/0_20

 

 
Originally Posted by Noxinite View Post

Yes as per the HWBot rules:

Allowed optimisations :
Disable subtests
Driver settings finetuning
Tesselation tweaking

 


Edited by Roboyto - 2/5/16 at 12:22pm
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here ya asked what my gpu-z does with stuff and things. https://youtu.be/2Wv-rKbKlYA

EDIT: Roboyto i'm effin down to clown on that
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Originally Posted by navjack27 View Post

here ya asked what my gpu-z does with stuff and things. https://youtu.be/2Wv-rKbKlYA

EDIT: Roboyto i'm effin down to clown on that

 

Spread the word!  We need to show em what's up!  Going to have to put to Overclock socks on and push my 290s to the brink!

 

Tesselation tweaking is ALLOWED!


Edited by Roboyto - 2/5/16 at 12:23pm
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After I manually fixed voltages per DPM every so often I'd get them when leaving PC idle and coming back. In my case it was lack of voltage to GPU for the RAM clock I was running. As I didn't wish to increase voltage best fix was this:-

Above will limit RAM speed shooting upto MAX @ desktop, sometimes the GPU doesn't shoot up inline with RAM = lack of VDDC = blackscreen or are you having blackscreen when card under load?

I thought onebit said that even doing this doesn't fix the max ram speed issue in desktop. I thought this is why he made an AMD ticket.
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Spread the word!  We need to show em what's up!  Going to have to put to Overclock socks on and push my 290s to the brink!

Tesselation tweaking is ALLOWED!

dude my scores are in so far! we winning!
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Above will limit RAM speed shooting upto MAX @ desktop, sometimes the GPU doesn't shoot up inline with RAM = lack of VDDC = blackscreen or are you having blackscreen when card under load?

Yes, these are blackscreens when under load. There isnt a large group of us with this particular problem; where is will blackscreen above a certain voltage threshold, and this problem is greatly exacerbated when running higher refresh rates.
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Not sure if everyone saw this, but it is a call to arms Red Team!

Yep seen it smile.gif and plan to make a sub biggrin.gif .

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Originally Posted by navjack27 View Post

here ya asked what my gpu-z does with stuff and things. https://youtu.be/2Wv-rKbKlYA

First and foremost.
Quote:
Forgot to mention that you will never achieve a FULL control over the power management on these cards. The driver will perform certain adjustments without the user knowing about it.

Lint to quote

Next when you run OBS, it creates a load and is making your card shoot to 1500 RAM and it's picking a VDDC out of your DPM/Limit Tables to use. If you do what I posted before for Enzarch to try that will improve the situation. I get similar scenario on my card when use FastStone Capture to do screen video and same with Heaven, etc. Only difference my Heaven starts using higher RAM but FSC stays below <=1250MHz. I will try to setup a camera to make video of my system smile.gif , show desktop idle / use, then fire up FSC and Heaven / Valley, etc.

Secondly.

Differing apps create different VDDC even at same clocks, most give also a non linear VDDC, only GPU-Z Render test gives a flat line (so far from what I've seen & others reporting). Again can't be controlled, that's why Berkeley (I & others) when setting manual voltages for each DPM use GPU-Z for before / after.
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Originally Posted by Shodin10k View Post

I thought onebit said that even doing this doesn't fix the max ram speed issue in desktop. I thought this is why he made an AMD ticket.

It does not fix it, it improves it smile.gif (well defo in my case and a few others).

At desktop idle I get no shooting up, when moving around mouse no shooting up, due to when say opening a window I may get a very slight shoot up to 3xxMHz but RAM stays 150MHz. If something like say MSI AB graph is running again 300MHz/150MHz and if move mouse on graph GPU shoot 3xx/150MHz and very very occasionally 3xx/1250MHz.
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Originally Posted by Enzarch View Post

Yes, these are blackscreens when under load. There isnt a large group of us with this particular problem; where is will blackscreen above a certain voltage threshold, and this problem is greatly exacerbated when running higher refresh rates.

Doing what I posted earlier won't hurt and as highlighted above should improve things at desktop.

I would assume under load blackscreen would be:-

a) lack of VDDC
b) perhaps RAM / MC just can't cope, so "silicon lottery", perhaps try lower RAM clock
c) upping VDDCI (aka Aux Voltage may help, kizwan has solved his similar issue that way).

If it's still occurring, I'm sorry but got no more ideas redface.gif , perhaps using a differing ROM will help or ask tech support of your card if they have an updated ROM. I have done this twice on 2 Sapphire cards I own/owned. I wasn't having blackscreen but just wanted a newer version of ROM if they had one smile.gif .
Edited by gupsterg - 2/6/16 at 12:32am
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good info, AUX is sometimes misunderstood as just being some sort of memory voltage. isn't it just like the cpu voltage uhhh whats it called not vcore but the memory that goes to the vrms for the core or something... i've been up late playing tera with a friend. i'm fried more then our gpus
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VDDCI (aka Aux Voltage) is voltage given to Memory Controller.

Some have reported improved:-

a) stability for a RAM clock
b) improved RAM clock headroom
c) stopped blackscreen

for me it hasn't helped in any of those situations.

It's all down to "quality" of MC and "silicon lottery".

From talk's with The Stilt via PM going too heavy hand on upping this is not good idea. So little increase can help and excessive can do the opposite (ie not help). The MC is sensitive to voltage so use caution. It's effects are down to per user experience / card.

Adding this info now to OP post, have done some more work on OP today and planning to do more smile.gif .
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