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Yes, you can use HR to change idle clocks.

How your DPM voltages are is strange to me, but be aware I don't fully understand the EVV / ASIC profiling going on. I'd run tests and set manual voltages per DPM and see how it goes.

Don't worry too much about your ASIC quality, TBH lower = better from all The Stilt has stated in the context of us normal users. Lower ASIC = less leaky ASIC = can use and sustain higher voltage.

See this post and this one.

As you can see due to the higher voltage they use = less power draw and lower LL effect.

From how you state DPM 0 is 0.993v in bios but show as 1.080v in GPU-Z @ idle, you definitely have voltage offset present in ROM or IR3567B.

Attach your stock ROM to post, so someone may view and also attach i2cdump file.
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Attach your stock ROM to post, so someone may view and also attach i2cdump file.
I have the same WF3 card with same high DPM0. I posted i2cdump here and The Stilt said, that there is no offset.rolleyes.gif
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I have the same WF3 card with same high DPM0. I posted i2cdump here and The Stilt said, that there is no offset.rolleyes.gif

Ahhh, sorry forgot smile.gif.
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Originally Posted by DDSZ View Post

i2cdump (Click to show)
Code:
1C 0D 25 03 16 16 54 50 7A 0D 11 66 66 44 FF FF 
A2 22 80 10 2A FF 40 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 60 60 2B 1A 00 80 06 21 9C 2D 37 9C 1C 2A 
85 07 FC 7C 79 05 05 10 81 A0 60 00 00 66 00 00 
A8 90 00 00 00 00 00 00 14 14 00 40 80 20 A0 FF 
FF 00 30 88 54 DD 88 12 2A 02 A8 00 50 25 00 3C 
3C 04 9C 60 C0 9C 24 88 80 00 00 00 00 FF 06 FF 
FF 20 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 15 15 00 00 
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 88 88 01 C2 44 00 00 1F 
00 05 43 4D 58 03 30 70 5D A3 86 80 04 24 23 26 
00 00 00 00 00 00 01 01 08 55 80 9F A0 00 00 09 
48 00 00 00 FF 00 23 F7 00 00 71 7A 64 15 00 00 
00 00 FF 76 B3 00 00 00 00 00 00 05 01 44 00 00 
00 00 AD 50 0C 00 10 00 3F 00 00 00 23 C0 F0 00 
00 00 00 10 01 03 01 88 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 
00 00 00 00 00 33 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00

From your ic2dump:-

Register 26 = 00 (VDDC/VDDCI offset not shown in MSI AB slider,etc)
Register 8D = 00 (VDDC offset shown in MSI AB slider,etc)
Register 8E = 00 (VDDCI offset shown in MSI AB slider,etc)

So no voltage offset for those known ones (perhaps those are all there is thinking.gif).

Some elements of your i2cdump differ from few I've seen thinking.gif (90 - CF in I2C Dumps is monitoring values).

So The Stilt suggest:-
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Originally Posted by The Stilt View Post

There are no offsets what so ever in the MTP (like there shouldn´t be). It is either a fluke or some configuration bits in the MTP are not right. I would suggest you copy the VoltageObjectInfo from one of the stock MBA ROMs.

The offsets are always global, you cannot tie them to a specific DPM. The offsets are applied by the VRM controller (which doesn´t know anything about DPMs), so they are either on or off. For the same reason it is advised NOT to use offsets, because they hurt your efficiency.

How did that go? smile.gif

I'd probably use VoltageObjectInfo from MLU 0PM and edit out the VRM freq. switching drop he applied plus make VDDCR limit stock if you require more than 1.36875V.
Edited by gupsterg - 2/7/16 at 5:19am
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I'd probably use VoltageObjectInfo from MLU 0PM and edit out the VRM freq. switching drop he applied
Seems like I missed something biggrin.gif
Did you find its location in VoltageObjectInfo?
post #1725 of 3620
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@DDSZ

Indeed smile.gif , yep wink.gif . Link:- post

Also if you edit that table you must correct pointer Link:- post

At the time of that last linked post I thought it pointed to voltage offset, but it points to beginning of registers. Tested successfully by myself 3 times now with VoltageObjectInfo edits wink.gif .

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"uP6266" is present on all Hawaii cards, regardless if they have adjustable MVDDC or not. It is a tiny sink / source DAC in SOT23-8 package. It is located next to the through-hole inductor in the front of the card (close to the fan header). PCB location U502B. http://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/R9_290X/images/front_full.jpg

Tried 3 Sapphire stock ROMs, still no UP6266 in i2cdump, still can't find it on PCB redface.gif .

So was trying to find info on "sink / source" , is this it in simple terms that make kinda sense to me?
Quote:
Sinking and Sourcing are terms used to define the control of direct current flow in a load. A sinking digital I/O (input/output) provides a grounded connection to the load, whereas a sourcing digital I/O provides a voltage source to the load.

Consider a simple circuit that consists of one digital input connected to a digital output. The circuit needs a voltage source, a ground, and a load. A sourcing digital I/O provides the voltage needed for the circuit. A sinking digital I/O provides the ground needed in the circuit. The digital input provides the load required for the circuit to work.

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I bet you are using Displayport and more than 60Hz refresh rate.
Black-outs(temporary blackscreens) are very usual with these cards. I even experience this on my card.
If you want to get rid of this, you need to lower the volts(and thus lower the cloks) or select 60Hz refresh rate if you are using displayport.
These blackouts are caused by corruprion of digital signal aka....displayport caused by high core volts.
Dont ask me why, I have no idea redface.gif


If anyone knows how to fix it, it would be super cool. I have 144Hz monitor for a reason.....and not that I will use it @60Hz biggrin.gif

It can be fixed on Lightning cards with a hardmod which allows you to raise the 0.95V rail voltage
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

And I believe you already have software control of that rail voltage on Matrix cards, once you enable Ln2 mode. But don't quote me on this.


Don't know anything that would help reference/390 series user though, I am sorry.
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It can be fixed on Lightning cards with a hardmod which allows you to raise the 0.95V rail voltage
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

And I believe you already have software control of that rail voltage on Matrix cards, once you enable Ln2 mode. But don't quote me on this.


Don't know anything that would help reference/390 series user though, I am sorry.

OH FINALLY; This is exactly what I was expecting/ hoping would eventually pop up!!

We now have, at least, a step to go from.

rt123 - Any more info, links, etc. you can provide would all be helpful.

I dont mind hard modding, but just imagine if we can solve this in vBIOS!!

EDIT: looks like this is the MSI Lighting thread http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=106317
Edited by Enzarch - 2/7/16 at 9:56am
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Don't know if the "chip" is controlled or can be controlled by vbios but will try to find time to parse some tables via Atomdis.

Try a PM to The Stilt as he would defo know if the vbios can control this smile.gif .
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OH FINALLY; This is exactly what I was expecting/ hoping would eventually pop up!!

We now have, at least, a step to go from.

rt123 - Any more info, links, etc. you can provide would all be helpful.

I dont mind hard modding, but just imagine if we can solve this in vBIOS!!

EDIT: looks like this is the MSI Lighting thread http://forum.hwbot.org/showthread.php?t=106317

I am aware of the thread.

Here's a better & more exact picture of where the soldering needs to be done.
Warning: Spoiler! (Click to show)

IGNORE the black arrows completely.
I did the mod on my Lightning last summer, haven't gotten around to testing it. But I have no doubt it works, because of the reports from that thread.



It does work from VBIOS on the matrix,

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?288926-Asus-290X-Matrix-Platinum-overclocking

Look at the last GPU tweak screenshot in the 2nd post of the thread. There's 0.95V voltage control.
What I am unsure of, is that it comes that way directly from factory, or you need to enable ln2 more and/or need special BIOS/GPU tweak.
Last part will prolly not be made public.



Edit:- @gupsterg These BIOS mods don't work on the Lightning because of the Samsung mems, right...?
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Edit:- @gupsterg These BIOS mods don't work on the Lightning because of the Samsung mems, right...?

All bios mods in OP work on Lightning smile.gif .

Is there a particular one your after?
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