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When I used only HYNIX SEQ Setting (AJR) and placed in my stock HYNIX (AFR) I got 0 gain in performance or stability.

So that's why 390 MC v1.0 was scrapped and v2.0 was done.

v2.0 was as the Stilt said:-
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To get around the MEMCLK barrier in Grenada, AMD has latched some of the memory controller related timings (through bios). So for higher than 1375MHz use 390 memory block with corrected memory density and corrected timings.

v3.0 was when we started correcting RAM IC Vendor ID but also RefreshRateFactor. Which caused a performance drop, so then we went v3.1.

All the Stilt has explained regrading table structure is:-
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VRAM_Info yes. The first part of the table is for PHY & IO related settings / timings wink.gif
The ELPIDA data block was taken from 390 ROM. Better use that for ELPIDA card instead of HYNIX ones.

Regarding SEQ Setting, my idea is that since we're using 390 MC, we should use most of the 390 tables in it. Since it doesn't show any difference in performance, the more reason we should use it.
Edited by kizwan - 2/8/16 at 11:25pm
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I'm happy to add or change it smile.gif , as I have no card with Elpida RAM you are able to test if performance is effected?

Do you think we should also change the "data" block?

On a side note received a Sapphire Tri-X 290 4GB (not New Edition 8+8) yesterday smile.gif .





And with -6.25mV for VDDC / VDCCI denoted by the FF @ 0.x26 in i2cdump managed 1100/1475 & 1110/1460 biggrin.gif .

Link:- Out of box vs 1100/ 1475 vs 1110/1460

If I compare this to my Vapor-X 290X that has VID of 1.24375 with +25mV offset out of box at clocks of 1030/1325, IIRC managed max 1080/1525 without touching voltage.

Will be spending a bit more time seeing if I can get the Tri-X 290 past 1110/1460, then time for bios mods smile.gif .
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Do you think we should also change the "data" block?
Of course yes. If for HYNIX we can use one from 390, why not for ELPIDA.
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Again only reason they weren't changed was as The Stilt had not highlighted this on 2 occasions when asked, but any how we can smile.gif .

I've so far done about 4-5 roms, which include Elpida BABG / BBBG , Samsung K4FS and Hynix AFR / BFR and all as v3.1 and no reports of issues.
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Again only reason they weren't changed was as The Stilt had not highlighted this on 2 occasions when asked, but any how we can smile.gif .

I've so far done about 4-5 roms, which include Elpida BABG / BBBG , Samsung K4FS and Hynix AFR / BFR and all as v3.1 and no reports of issues.
I don't think you get my logic here. In the 390 ROMs, there's HYNIX 390 MC & there's also ELPIDA 390 MC. You only use HYNIX 390 MC, just changed the memory vendor header & memory timings for use in 290 ROMs.
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I don't think you get my logic here. In the 390 ROMs, there's HYNIX 390 MC & there's also ELPIDA 390 MC. You only use HYNIX 390 MC, just changed the memory vendor header & memory timings for use in 290 ROMs.

I get your logic smile.gif. I appreciate and value your input smile.gif. Since posting this mod you & DDSZ are the only ones giving input on edits to do and I want input smile.gif.

We still have not identified MC timings and perhaps this way we'll narrow it down.

My logic was as such for mod.

When I take only HYNIX AJR seq and add to AFR table there is no boost.

When I change RefreshRateFactor in AFR to same as AJR it will boost performance, but it is not the same boost as combining AJR seq & RRF.

So perhaps the AJR seq is the MC timings. The data block between AJR & AFR is identical. So I don't think that is MC timings.

Seq for Elpida BBBG & BABG does differ between them IIRC, I did not have time to check data block, I will and if you do please let me know. When I tested v3.1 mod with other members it worked so rolled with it.

By this I do not mean there is no room to improve on mod and am happy to improve it with input from members smile.gif.

I will double check IC setup section between AJR & AFR, as IIRC there are other value changes besides the ones I/we have labelled. Time has just been short on my end, even though I'm giving it all I have smile.gif.
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Many many thanks for taking your time to post info biggrin.gif , + rep thumb.gif , I also require the i2cdump smile.gif (view video below).

AiDA64 i2cdump guide (Click to show)


Thank you for confirming you see the 0.95V voltage slider in GPU Tweak and can take it to 1.025V via PM on HUKD. I would assume you have not soldered the LN2 mode pads on card?
Matrix LN2 enable pads (Click to show)



If there is any bios mods you require let me know I will happily oblige as you have taken time out for us biggrin.gif .

And welcome to OCN! thumbsupsmiley.png
atismbusdump.txt 38k .txt file

Here is the other file, I can also confirm I have not soldered on anything to the cards.
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So perhaps the AJR seq is the MC timings. The data block between AJR & AFR is identical. So I don't think that is MC timings.
The AJR & AFR "data block" are not identical. The one identical is Memory Adjust Table (MemAdjustTbl). The "data block" I'm referring to is between Memory Adjust Table (MemAdjustTbl) & Memory Clock Patch Table (MemClkPatchTbl).
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@gupsterg I don't know the impact of this but I checked the 390MC v3.1 for ELPIDA memory contains HYNIX data block (between Memory Adjust Table & Memory Clock Patch Table) & HYNIX SEQ Setting.






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Seq for Elpida BBBG & BABG does differ between them IIRC, I did not have time to check data block, I will and if you do please let me know.
Ermm...what is I'm doing right now? I checked & let you know now, a couple posts ago.
Edited by kizwan - 2/9/16 at 1:50am
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@kizwan

Yes, that section differs smile.gif, I have seen that. I will mark an image with some names of sections, as it will aid discussion smile.gif.

As you have Elpida card and can do mod please test mod as you've outlined and I will make changes to OP from your results smile.gif.

Many thanks for time/input smile.gif.

@nwxan90

+rep biggrin.gif , many thanks again for your time.
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